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VTsoi
Joined: 30 Jan 2012 Posts: 8
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:28 pm Post subject: From Korea to Russia |
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Hi all,
I'm currently teaching near Seoul, SK and am about to finish my yearlong contract. After a month or two back at home, I hope to teach in Russia.
I majored in Russian (though I suck at it) have a year teaching experience in Korea, and а 100 hour TESOL certification. I know the latter two qualifications aren't a big deal outside of Asia but I was wondering if they'd be worth anything at all in Russia in terms of salary or the types of positions open to me. Am I still most likely gonna be at a McSchool?
I know its quite different from Korea. I'm not planning on making much money though I hope to at least break even. I also want to avoid an expat bubble as a large part of my goal is to force myself to use and become fluent in Russian.
I was hoping on teaching in Kazan due to the fact that its a decent city with a bit of a multicultural vibe thanks to its large Tatar population. Anyone taught there/ aware of jobs or opportunities in that area?
Barring that, any other recommendations for cities aside from Moscow or St. Petersburg where there's a decent bit of culture/ university/ music scene?
Any other information on what to expect or prepare for would be more than welcome.
Спасибо! |
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jpvanderwerf2001
Joined: 02 Oct 2003 Posts: 1117 Location: New York
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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I'm in Vladivostok. PM me if this prospect interests you. |
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VTsoi
Joined: 30 Jan 2012 Posts: 8
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:48 am Post subject: |
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So no one's taught in Kazan? No one's been to Kazan? |
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adey
Joined: 22 Jan 2012 Posts: 13 Location: the event horizon
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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I was in Kazan at the beginning of Jan for a few days, not teaching.
Not sure what you want to know or if I know it? |
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VTsoi
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:48 am Post subject: |
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What was your general impression of the city? Did it seem like there was a market for English there? |
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adey
Joined: 22 Jan 2012 Posts: 13 Location: the event horizon
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:40 am Post subject: |
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These are only lazy sense impressions as I was only there 4 days.
Kazan is a University town with a couple of prestigious faculties (Lenin & Tolstoy both studied there). Although it fell into disrepair in the 90's there is a drive to rebuild the civic infrastructure. The wind from the Volga & Kazanka rivers gives a freezing blast almost everywhere you go.
On the cultural front, I enjoyed a Nicolai Fechin exhibition, there is a rich cultural heritage to Kazan and many events on during the year including an International Opera Festival on right now. The Tartar food is good warming stodge, if you are familiar with English short crust pastry & pies then you'll understand what I mean.
There are plenty of high end German 4X4's driving around and it feels like a wealthy provinicial city boasting the usual array of international outlets. As it's been awarded football World Cup fixtures and the Student games I imagine there will be a push to learn more English.
A part from those glib observations I can't think of what else to say. |
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VTsoi
Joined: 30 Jan 2012 Posts: 8
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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Cool, thanks adey.
Does anyone know whether I'd be able to find a non-mcschool job with my qualifications? |
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spiral78
Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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One year in Korea plus a 100 hour TESOL cert = McSchool, I'm pretty sure. Was your cert on site, and did it include actual teaching practice with students?
Your grasp of Russian is probably more valuable. |
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VTsoi
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:33 am Post subject: |
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^ Depends on what you mean by on-site. It was done in a real classroom (not internet) and we spent 15-25 hours (forget which) doing actual teaching (though it was to other members of the class rather than other students.
I'm guessing still, mcschool huh? |
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jpvanderwerf2001
Joined: 02 Oct 2003 Posts: 1117 Location: New York
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:54 am Post subject: |
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I'm unsure what's wrong with "McSchools". They are a great place to start in Russia, as they tend to pay pretty well and take care of visas and other issues. In fact, I think I saw on this site that EF is paying 60K for EFL teachers in Kazan. I mean, you could definitely do worse in Russia, that's for sure.
The vast majority of great opportunities in Russia are found after staying here some time. Word-of-mouth and face-to-face contact are both extremely important; McSchools can be great for increasing both of those.
Otherwise, you could probably get on the ground and find some university work, although that usually pays less (and generally far less than 60K).
Good luck. |
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jpvanderwerf2001
Joined: 02 Oct 2003 Posts: 1117 Location: New York
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smithrn1983
Joined: 23 Jul 2010 Posts: 320 Location: Moscow
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:09 am Post subject: |
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I was under the impression that employees in Russia were entitled to 28 days holiday a year, but EF is only advertising 21 here. Do the 28 days include public holidays, or am I simply mistaken? But that looks like a decent position depending on how many hours they expect you to work every week. |
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coledavis
Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Posts: 1838
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:23 am Post subject: |
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And who says culture and the music scene are restricted to Moscow and St Petersburg (except the citizens of those cities)? Consider Akademgorodok, near Novosibirsk, or N. itself. |
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jpvanderwerf2001
Joined: 02 Oct 2003 Posts: 1117 Location: New York
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:11 am Post subject: |
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smithrn19833,
While I worked for EF, I had a grand total of 5 days of holidays over the course of the contract, which was allowed because I was a contract worker. If you are a permanent worker, you are supposed to get the full 28 (36 in Vladivostok) days of holidays. At least that's how I understood it. |
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Sashadroogie
Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:42 am Post subject: |
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Part-time worker, full-time worker. Makes no difference. None of this is relevant to your rights in Russia. Your visa will make no mention of this status. Schools like EF just make up their own 'rules' as they go along. They would never survive a legal challenge. |
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