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[Dragonlady]

[disraeli123]

Thanks DL for saying more succinctly what I was thinking and for bringing up the situation of a possible conflict of interest here. I am new to this board, but is BBB usually this strident and nasty.

[disraeli123]

It don't know, if DL's question is valid or not, but are you eligible to vote in both elections, if so then isn't that kinda a conflict of interest in some way. By the way the Mexican constitution is right about foreigners getting involved in politics, but I do not think that includes curtailing free speech.

I just find it ironic that you use deomocratic documents to try to silence speech here on this board. Are you that intolerant of other peoples points of view. I must admit I tip my hat to DL in pointing out a possible bit of hypocracy on your behalf BBB. Come out of the woodwork and answer my questions and other questions that have been asked of you here on the board. I would only say that I would never use a democratic document such as the constituion of Mexico to try and silence free debate anywhere, but I guess some people prize democracy and democratic freedoms more than others. Or put it another way democracy is for me, but not for you. I hope you will answer all the questions posed to you on this board BBB, because silence or attempted bullying will not silence these questions or the people asking the questions

Oh, by the way, if you hold both the U.S. and Mexican passports can't you leave Mexico even, if you are either a citizen or a long term resident just as I can leave anytime once again I thank DL for showing your hypocritical arguement, if she is right then you can leave Mexico anytime you want and live somewhere else, if that is true you really are a hypocite of the first order. Again, if I'm wrong call me on it and I will apologize most abjectly, but when a veteran of this board calls you out I feel comfortable in following suit

I detest bullies of all kinds and you seem to be one of the worst kinds isn't that what happened to your candiate Lopez Obrador and you are acting just like his opponents, but on a lesser scale. You seem to have painted yourself into a corner please come out and answer the questions being asked of you.

[AGoodStory]

[disraeli123]

Nice try, but it wasn't me trying to use the Mexican Constitution to silence people and it wasn't me who was basically telling someone to mind their own, business. If you had taken the time to read what lead up to that quote you would have seen not only me, but someone else asked some tough questions as well.

If BBB does have 2 passports and can vote in boith elections that means that she can leave this country when she wants as well and in some ways has the same options she accused me of, so, if questions are good for the goose their good for the gander.

[Isla Guapa]

[MotherF]

[Dragonlady]

Ok ladies, sheathe your claws... the topic is politics, where everyone is allowed to get their knees in knots!

DL

[disraeli123]

Ladies, you should know that ganging up on someone is also, a form of bullying. You disgree with me about BBB well that is what free speech is all about. I would just leave you with a quote from John Adams" In politics freedom of speech and the documents that protect that speech should not be used to try and silence free debate." (Inaugural Address-March 3, 1797) Read BBB's earlier musings about the Mexican Constitution and then not only look at what I wrote, but also other questions asked by other people about the same quote. If BBB wasn't using the Mexican Constitution to silence me or put me on the defensive then what was she doing? I may not know as much about Mexican history as BBB, but I know enough that freedom is fragile and it needs to be nurtured not stymied. Again read everything and see, if I might have a point

[Mr. Kalgukshi]

I suggest that everyone quickly return to the topic at hand and avoid the personal asides. Address the message and not the messenger. If not, this thread will no longer be available and sanctions will be issued, as warranted.

If your goal in coming to this board is to work people up and discuss politics ad infinitum, this is probably not the best board for you.

Political discussions are not among the primary goals of this board and such discussions are kept on a very short leash here. Would you believe shorter than my dog's leash?

Based on some of the comments posted on this thread, reviewing the following is probably not a bad idea:

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=89833

[BadBeagleBad]

[Dragonlady]

Thanks BBB for being open - you weren't obliged to respond.
The number of passports one holds was never my concern - my curiosity was whether or not one had the legal right to vote in both countries.

Thanks again.

DL

[Dragonlady]

bump..

Just wanted to make sure we were still on 'speaking terms' BBB ... seriously.

DL

[disraeli123]

I hope that the results of the other election will be a little more clear cut than yesterdays election was. You need clear majorities both in the election of a president and in the legislature as well. The largest vote as a plurality will always bring inertia since the person who won by less than 50%+1 can be called not fully representative of the people since the majority voted against him or her.

Inertia has been the problem north of the border for the last 2 years I hope it will end one way or the other with the upcoming election. Inertia is not good for anyone it creates discontent which can spawn other problems which may not be easily handled. Only time will tell whether yesterdays election will work out. We should all hope so since we have made the decision to live in Mexico. I also, hope that the other election will also work out well since the results will one way or another have consequences for all of us here in Mexico.

[Prof.Gringo]