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etoile
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 Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:21 pm Post subject: Which type of FM3? |
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Hello,
I'm wondering if anybody can offer some advice about getting a working visa. I've been here 4 weeks and seem to be picking up some business english classes here and there. I want to start the visa process but i've been getting conflicting advice.
The first interview I had suggested that I get the independent visa, he advised this was an easy enough process and that I could get an accountant for about 150pesos a month to do my taxes.
The next 2 interviewers suggested sponsorship, they would write me a letter for immigration. However, if one school sponsors me for my visa shouldn't I be only working for that school?
How easy is it to get the independent visa? I have my degree in languages (not English) and a CELT cert. Is this enough? |
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Guy Courchesne
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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The independent visa is easy enough to get, and I think you can use either the CELTA or your degree, though whichever you use needs an apostille if you don't have that already.
Sponsorship ties you to a single employer...fine enough to do if someone is offering full time work but if you plan to pick up business English hours from more than one place, the independent is probably better. |
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Phil_K
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Location: A World of my Own
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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If an employer INSISTS on you having a sponsored FM3 (unlikely), you can always apply later for ampliaci�n de actividades, giving classes on your own account with only a letter of intention to back this up. The two can exist side by side. And both can be changed, or dropped independently. In my experience though, the independent status is accepted by most, if not all, employers, as they are only interested in the fact that you can work legally in Mexico.
Sometimes, they are not even interested in that, but that's another story... |
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etoile
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Guy Courchesne
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:36 am Post subject: |
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I hold an independent FM3 and have never had an interview...but mine is classified as Tecnico o Cientifico, within the same grouping of Estancia Temporal. The Profesional title you linked is what you get when sponsored by an employer.
http://www.inm.gob.mx/static/tramites/Internacion/Trabajo/Estancia_temporal/VisitanteTecnicoCientifico.pdf
Hmm...looks like they have changed this checklist a bit. It seems to ask for a contract or proposal. I'm due in next month for a renewal...guess I'll find out if it has changed as I've never seen this before. |
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Tretyakovskii
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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Guy, I don't know that it'll matter. When I renewed, all that was required was the last three monthly tax declarations. These show you are actively engaged in the work you were given permission to do, and that should be enough.
When I first applied, I presented my credentials along with list of students who said they wanted to study with me, privately. That was enough to get the first independent FM3. I've not seen any changes to the law that would complicate an otherwise uncomplicated procedure. |
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Isla Guapa
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:35 am Post subject: |
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Guy, I don't know that it'll matter. When I renewed, all that was required was the last three monthly tax declarations. These show you are actively engaged in the work you were given permission to do, and that should be enough.
When I first applied, I presented my credentials along with list of students who said they wanted to study with me, privately. That was enough to get the first independent FM3. I've not seen any changes to the law that would complicate an otherwise uncomplicated procedure. |
When I renewed my FM3 independiente in the spring, they only wanted to see my most recent proof of payment of monthly taxes. As usual, things are done differently in different INM offices.
When I first applied for my FM3 5 years ago, I only had to present my credentials. Nothing was said about providing them with a list of potential students.[/i] |
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Tretyakovskii
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:45 am Post subject: |
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| When I first applied for my FM3 5 years ago, I only had to present my credentials. Nothing was said about providing them with a list of potential students. |
And it's entirely possible that my presenting this list with my original application was an example, on my part, of overkill. I did that, along with including letters of recommendation from former clients, to establish my bona fides in Mexico; again, probably not necessary to have done, at all.
Because the independent status is virtually unheard of in this jurisdiction, unlike Mexico City where it seems much more common, I wasn't confident of success in the application process and went overboard with supporting documents. |
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etoile
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Tretyakovskii
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| No, I think you're on the right track. |
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etoile
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Guy Courchesne
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Oh, that looks like the right one...section 3 asks you to indicate what it is you plan to do in the country - which for me had been a letter written in Spanish as to what my lucrative activities are.
It is now listed as 'Other' under 'change of visa characteristics'? Wouldn't have thought to look for it there for a first time FM3.
So yes, you complete the Solicitud de Estancia first, and pay the initial 550 pesos fee. Then you complete the form at the link she printed for you and pay the second fee - 2,356 pesos for the 'lucrativo' status. |
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Tretyakovskii
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Boy, how anybody is supposed to figure that stuff out the first time through....
Looks like you've got him sorted out now, Guy. I was wrong about the page he should be on. |
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etoile
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| I completely forgot about this but do I need to have my documents translated? If so how do I go about doing that? |
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notamiss
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| They should tell you if you need any documents translated. For an official translation, the translation must be done by a perito traductor certified by the state you are in. If they do tell you that you need translated documents, ask if they have a list of peritos. If not, look for one in the yellow pages (secci�n amarilla http://www.seccionamarilla.com.mx/). |
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