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Can i get pension money back after being away for 5 years?

 
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poohbear



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 5:18 am    Post subject: Can i get pension money back after being away for 5 years? Reply with quote

Hello, i taught in Japan for 2 years and 8 months 5 years ago (205-2008) with Aeon. When i left I never applied to get my pension money back because i thought i might go back & teach there again one day. That never happened, but i'm going back to Japan this winter for vacation and while im there i'd like to know if i can get that pension money back?

I still have my Alien registration card & the passport with the Japanese work visa that they issued to me, can i still go to the immigration office in Tokyo (near Shinagawa if i remember correctly?) & apply to get my pension money back?

Thanks in advance for any advice or feedback on the matter.
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G Cthulhu



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 6:50 am    Post subject: Re: Can i get pension money back after being away for 5 year Reply with quote

Nope.

Time limit for application for the initial refund is 12 months IIRC, and then two years for the tax that's withheld on the pension withdrawal.
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poohbear



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn, so i can't get it back at all? Even if i have my ARC and documents? I recall it'd amount to about $3000 for almost 3 years work, no?

Is there an immigration hotline there for foreigners? When i taught in Korea they had an immigration hotline for foreigners in English.

Thanks again for any clarification.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You waited too long.
http://www.nenkin.go.jp/n/www/share/pdf/existing/main/individual_02/pdf/dattai/english.pdf

"In order to receive your Lump-sum Withdrawal Payments (“the Payments”), you need to file your application within two years since your departure from Japan."

Immigration has nothing to do with pension. Different branch of the government.
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poohbear



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

argh, ok thanks. So there's no way to appeal it? i have to go to the pension office then if its not the immigration office?

Also, how much would it have been for 2 years and 8 months work? just curious.
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G Cthulhu



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read on from page 4 & 5 of the link that glenski posted.
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poohbear



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok thanks guys. so that would've been 216,000 yen.>< c'est la vie i suppose.
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Solar Strength



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what if the applicant has worked more than 36 months, e.g., 48 months or more?

Wouldn't they receive more money back from the pension scheme?
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have not put in your token 25 years, you get back only the amount dictated by the last 3 years of putting into the system.

See Note 2 on the first page of that link.
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mitsui



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are Canadian I think there isn`t the agreement between Japan and Canada about pensions.
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G Cthulhu



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mitsui wrote:
If you are Canadian I think there isn`t the agreement between Japan and Canada about pensions.


Nope. There's a pension totalization agreement between the two countries, which may be what you're thinking of, but that's only applicable to people that are in Japan (or Canada) on an employment transfer visa, not a work visa. The Japan-Canada tax treaty covers pensions as we've been discussing in all other cases.
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