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Gnome · Joined: 05 May 2004 Posts: 74

In the latest ad for Interlink (Al Yamamah Private College in Riyadh), they have changed the salary range from $35000 - 40000 US to $35000 - 38000 US. Are they kidding? They should be increasing the salary range, not decreasing it.

Albulbul · Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Posts: 364

Increase it ? Why should they when posters like "usool" would be delighted to come here for nothing - just to say their prayers in the Holy of Holies in Mecca (sory "Makkah" !) where they get a post-mortem credit worth 100,000 times their prayers said elsewhere ?

Look out for a big increase in the number of Muslims recruited ! Amnd belive me some of these guys would come and work here for noithing !

usool · Joined: 11 May 2004 Posts: 147

Dear Albulbul,

Why should they when posters like "usool" would be delighted to come here for nothing

Yep I confirm that if it wasn't for my overlylarge student debt and I could afford it I would indeed do it for nothing. The chance to pray in Makkah is one that any Muslim would find hard to turn down.

From a pedagogical perspective it makes sense to have teachers who really care about their studets and their teaching environment:

Contracted expatriate teachers are less motivated to critique existing systems (Shaw 1997) and they have little impetus to innovate or initiate change. (Syed 2003).

Regards and best wishes

Bindair Dundat · Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 1123

usool · Joined: 11 May 2004 Posts: 147

it was a separate point.

Saudi4Ever · Joined: 25 Mar 2004 Posts: 135

Why does it seem like everyone is picking on Usool?

Usool, I got BOTH of your points. I with the second. I aplaud your enthusiam to live in a land that the Muslims believe to be sacred, but it is not right thatemployers take advantage of Muslims and pay them close to nothing while working them like slaves (I know this was not your point, yours was that you would do it for free if you could I assume because the blessings outweigh the material wealth). See the Berlitzx adds. The Berltiz in Makkah can only hire Muslims...right? But they pay less than any other location and make you work 6 days a week!

As far as teachers with genunie interest in their students, I couldnt agree more. As for those who disagree with you (or just hate to agree with you), then be honest, can you imagine a Catholic or Jewish school hiring muslims to educate their youth?

Many of you come on this board obviously disgrutled. Your main complaint is living in an islamic environment. You want to get drunk, screw around, spread your ideals, or whatever. But you all complain about the Muslims. Does this attitude carry over in your classrooms are you all just big phonies. Makes one think of the African American slaves. Bucking and grinning in massa'a face but spitting in their lemonade behind his back. Only difference is they had no choice....you do!

johnslat · Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 2:58 pm Post subject:

Dear Saudi4Ever,
Well, it would appear that reason did have a short life here.

Saudi4Ever · Joined: 25 Mar 2004 Posts: 135

Now John, of course I was not talking about you.

johnslat · Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 3:51 pm Post subject: Aha

Dear Saudi4Ever,
Oh, OK then. As one of the very few perfect humans on this benighted planet, I do have a reputation to uphold, you know. Guess it was the

"you all" that threw me. I'm not from the South
Regards,
John

Bindair Dundat · Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 1123

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foreign teacher · Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 9 Location: Saudi Arabia

It makes a lot of sense for Muslims to come and work in Saudi Arabia. It is the centre of Islam and the birthplace of the holy Prophet. What is sad, is that Saudis who employ these muslims are merely looking for cheap labour and exploit them. There are a few schools who make it clear that they want muslim teachers, but when you learn how much they are paying you understand why. Oh yes, you get that everywhere, teachers who work in a foreign country and all they do is sit and criticize the culture, religion and people of that country. If they don't like Saudi and can't stand the culture and people why don't they leave. It's so easy. All the whingers and whiners make life so gloomy. A lot of these so called Educators don't do a very good job in the classroom, all they want is the money.

foreign teacher · Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 9 Location: Saudi Arabia

It makes a lot of sense for Muslims to come and work in Saudi Arabia. It is the centre of Islam and the birthplace of the holy Prophet. What is sad, is that Saudis who employ these muslims are merely looking for cheap labour and exploit them. There are a few schools who make it clear that they want muslim teachers, but when you learn how much they are paying you understand why. Oh yes, you get that everywhere, teachers who work in a foreign country and all they do is sit and criticize the culture, religion and people of that country. If they don't like Saudi and can't stand the culture and people why don't they leave. It's so easy. All the whingers and whiners make life so gloomy. A lot of these so called Educators don't do a very good job in the classroom, all they want is the money.

Bindair Dundat · Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 1123