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Former ESL Teacher Released from Prison

 
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7969



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:10 am    Post subject: Former ESL Teacher Released from Prison Reply with quote

B.C. pedophile, homeward bound after Thai prison term

He only spent 39 months in prison, and he's back home. Looks like he'll be free any day now.
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rioux



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Free" as in able to teach again in other countries? Shocked
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tttompatz



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rioux wrote:
"Free" as in able to teach again in other countries? Shocked


Except for Thailand.... yes.

He has no criminal record at home.

Degree, transcripts, TEFL and clean CBC...

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's needed is a world-wide data base to prevent these "offenders" (I'd rather use a much harsher word) from ever holding any job involving children again.

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John
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Dedicated



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear John,

Here in the UK, anybody who works with children or vulnerable young people under 18, has to provide an Enhanced CRB check (Criminal Records Bureau). Without this, you cannot work with children.

If you have been abroad, they will contact the authorities overseas, which inevitably can lead to delays of up to 3-6 months before you can take up a job.

Hopefully, this should keep these "offenders" out.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnslat wrote:
What's needed is a world-wide data base to prevent these "offenders" (I'd rather use a much harsher word) from ever holding any job involving children again.

Regards,
John


I'm quite sure that in Australia there is a variety of offences (war crimes, paedophilia, terrorism etc) that you can be charged for under Australian law despite being committed in a foreign country. Strange the US doesn't have the same policy.
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tttompatz



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Karesta wrote:
johnslat wrote:
What's needed is a world-wide data base to prevent these "offenders" (I'd rather use a much harsher word) from ever holding any job involving children again.

Regards,
John


I'm quite sure that in Australia there is a variety of offences (war crimes, paedophilia, terrorism etc) that you can be charged for under Australian law despite being committed in a foreign country. Strange the US doesn't have the same policy.


That would require that you are either a citizen (for jurisdiction of extraterritorial laws) and that you weren't already prosecuted for the offense.

An Australian court can't punish a Canadian for crimes committed in Thailand nor can they punish an Australian for crimes committed abroad IF the offender has already been prosecuted by a court of competent jurisdiction.

In this particular case, a Canadian was prosecuted in Thailand for offenses in Thailand.

Because the offenses weren't committed in Canada and due to double jeopardy laws (can't be prosecuted again for the same offense that he has already served time for) there is no record of his offenses in Canada (he can get a clean criminal record check).

The same would be true for a UK, Australian or American citizen.

If he wants to work in a 3rd country abroad there is no way for the employer or immigration service or employer to check beyond the home country police check or to know that he was convicted of an offense in a 3rd country or that he was ever even abroad.

He can get a job in the UK (providing he could actually qualify for a job and get a proper visa) or just about anywhere else on the planet outside of Thailand.

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spiral78



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He can get a job ... just about anywhere else on the planet outside of Thailand


Sadly true. I know of a couple of cases where criminal offenses of this nature were committed (both also in Thailand) and the perpetrators still get legal work permits to teaching in other countries.
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