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White ice
Joined: 28 Aug 2012 Posts: 37
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:28 pm Post subject: If you don't enjoy CELTA then can you enjoy TEFL? |
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Hello all,
Interested to hear peoples thoughts on whether its likely that if you don't enjoy doing the CELTA course then you won't enjoy being a EFL teacher?
Im sure there are plenty of people on here who have done the CELTA. Did you enjoy it and do you enjoy teaching English now?
Any thoughts appreciated. |
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Sashadroogie
Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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Not sure any of these courses are designed with 'enjoyment' in mind. So, yes, I'd say that even if you found the course a harrowing experience, a pleasure-dome of TEFL may still await... hic!
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fluffyhamster
Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 3292 Location: UK > China > Japan > UK again
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:43 am Post subject: |
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I didn't particularly enjoy the CELTA, or rather, its predecessor, the CTEFLA (I found it often unconvincing, and overall quite boring and far too shallow/barely skimming the surface), but I've enjoyed TEFLing since, as one is freer once in the job to develop more sophisticated stuff, theoretical underpinnings etc (or at least one's own understanding). There have been several threads questioning CELTA methods and the like, a search will unearth them (and my, and Sasha's etc, comments in 'em). The CELTA may be for many the apparent first word in ELT, but it isn't the last by any means! And I'd be surprised if one could actually enjoy teaching for long by continuing with CELTA dictats, oops, I mean, advice. |
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coledavis
Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Posts: 1838
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:56 am Post subject: |
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Many parts of your experience post-CELTA will be different. Observations will be infrequent. Lengthy lesson plans should be a thing of the past (although see other threads about the advisability or otherwise of this). Preparation will initially be even tougher because of the number of lessons you will be teaching, but you will get used to it; it becomes an easier task and more and more of it will become almost automatic.
However, if you really don't enjoy teaching, then that problem will stay. But I doubt if the fault can be laid at CELTA's door. |
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Kofola
Joined: 20 Feb 2009 Posts: 159 Location: Slovakia
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:56 am Post subject: |
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I hated my CELTA course but I love teaching. I think it probably depends on your personality. I really dislike being boxed into things, so the CELTA approach is far too rigid for me. I like to be able to spend more time on something if I think my students need it or to throw my lesson plan out the window if I can see that they've had a bad day and need something different. I would also agree with fluffy hamster that it's the kind of dummies guide to teaching and that with further reading and experience you come to really understand the principles behind cognition, learning and teaching and it's putting this knowledge into practice that is what teaching is really about, rather than the CELTA tick-box approach.
The main difference, I think, is that when you're on the CELTA you're teaching for the observers, whereas in the real classroom, you're teaching for the students. You develop a rapport and see the mistakes they make and try to think of the best ways in which you can help them. You feel their frustrations but also their joy at understanding/remembering something. It makes all the difference. If you haven't taught before doing the CELTA you may well just associate the stress of teaching in front of so many observers with teaching, when really what you're feeling is CELTA stress/displeasure.
But I also have colleagues who loved the CELTA and love teaching, so I think it's very individual.
The only way to find out is to give it a go. |
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coledavis
Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Posts: 1838
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:13 am Post subject: |
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Well I can't speak for tutors at other centres, but the tutors who observed when I took the course appreciated things done for the students irregardless of course requirements. |
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Sashadroogie
Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:06 am Post subject: |
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Irregardless? IRREGARDLESS? May I refer you to the Pet Peeves page....
ARRRRGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! |
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coledavis
Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Posts: 1838
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:44 am Post subject: |
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I should have written 'regardless'. According to Wikipedia, 'irregardless' is an informal variant (although most of you no doubt use the words don't and haven't when writing here). However, the controversy around irregardless apparently goes back to the early twentieth century (suggesting something fogeyish about its lack of respectability) and its first use was in 1795. Come on people, get with the flow! Access the latest rap, or whatever it is young people say when I can hear what they're mumbling.
(Sashadroogie - Have you a link for the pet peeves? I would be interested.) |
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Sashadroogie
Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Kofola
Joined: 20 Feb 2009 Posts: 159 Location: Slovakia
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:01 am Post subject: |
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Well I can't speak for tutors at other centres, but the tutors who observed when I took the course appreciated things done for the students irregardless of course requirements. |
Perhaps I wasn't being very clear. Appreciate things done yes, but the primary goal of a trainee on a CELTA course to is to pass a teacher training course, while in real life, the primary goal of a teacher to to help the students achieve their goals. For me, at least, it changes the dynamics entirely and for that reason teaching in the two settings is a very different experience. |
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coledavis
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:37 am Post subject: |
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Got it. |
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santi84
Joined: 14 Mar 2008 Posts: 1317 Location: under da sea
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Sashadroogie
Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 3:57 am Post subject: |
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That's Mini-Me... |
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coledavis
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:42 am Post subject: |
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Am I the only person in the world who has never quite worked out what's funny (if anything) about Family Guy? Maybe some people just like cartoons (ir)regardless of the content. |
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it'snotmyfault
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