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jlwild



Joined: 25 Nov 2012
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 7:38 pm    Post subject: Hess International Reply with quote

Hey guys,

New to these forums and looking into taiwan - came across a place called Hess International Educational Organization.

I did a search on it here in the forums, but didn't really find what i was looking for.

Just curious if anyone has any experience with this company? And also what my chances would be applying to this place without prior international experience..

I am graduating in spring with an applied linguistics degree and and an adult TESOL certificate


Thanks guys, and looking forward to hearing back! Very Happy
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jlwild



Joined: 25 Nov 2012
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah figured out what i was doing wrong with the search.

pretty much just people just complaining about Hess, huh.


In that case, what is my best option here haha? where should i be looking next?
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ncaraway



Joined: 15 Feb 2010
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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atreyue



Joined: 07 May 2010
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Location: Taipei, Taiwan - The Rain Capital Of Asia

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hess is quite the institution here in Taiwan. Literally - an institution. And like institutions - has guidelines and regulations that some unsuspecting wide eye will deem as being excessive or over-bearing.

Now, I know people who have happy little lives living in that controlled situation. And then again, I know those who were "not renewed" for another year because they didn't play the Hess game 24/7/365.

It comes down to your personality and what you are willing to work for / accept for the salary. If you're coming to Taiwan - hoping to make a few bucks in a bad economy and sample the wares of the local female stock - then Hess is something you probably won't enjoy. However, if you're a solid team player, enjoy meeting parents as the token foreigner and singing Jingle Bells until you projectile vomit mistletoe - then sign up today!

Oh and if you do - DO NOT take the "emergency loan" that they offer wide eyes when they first come here, you'd get better interest rates from a loan shark.
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yoga2012



Joined: 21 Mar 2012
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea, regarding Hess, I was interviewed by them and was told it would take about 60 to 90 minutes, yet was kept on the phone for over 2 hours answering redundant questions and anything you can think of. I was fuming and irritated about 3/4 of the way through. I realized after the interview that this kind of job just wasn't for me even though they wanted me to do another interview with them soon after that. They could also ask you to give examples out-of-the-blue without adequate warning/preparation. Based on my experience, unless you are just plain desperate for any job, don't go anywhere near them.
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abercrombie



Joined: 17 Oct 2012
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

atreyue wrote:


It comes down to your personality and what you are willing to work for / accept for the salary. If you're coming to Taiwan - hoping to make a few bucks in a bad economy and sample the wares of the local female stock - then Hess is something you probably won't enjoy. However, if you're a solid team player, enjoy meeting parents as the token foreigner and singing Jingle Bells until you projectile vomit mistletoe - then sign up today!



EEEEWWWW!! If Hess plays that game, then this homey don't play dat!! No wonder teachers in Asia are called "trained monkeys" We do have lives outside the classroom, but some companies refuse to recognize this .
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teacher4life



Joined: 22 Apr 2012
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HESS should be thought of as the McDonalds of English language teaching in Taiwan. Cheap, corporate, and bad for you.
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romanworld



Joined: 27 May 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

teacher4life wrote:
HESS should be thought of as the McDonalds of English language teaching in Taiwan. Cheap, corporate, and bad for you.


Now we're on the same page!
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Timberdan



Joined: 21 Jul 2010
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never worked for Hess, but in the 5 years i've been in Taiwan I've never heard a good thing.
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Ferfichkin



Joined: 07 Jul 2005
Posts: 140

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I worked at Hess my first year in Taiwan and had no complaints. I worked at three different branches every week for the whole year, and they were all fine. I always read a lot of negative things about Hess, and I'm sure people have their reasons, but I think there are also a lot of folks out there like myself who had a good experience at Hess. The only difference is that people who have positive experiences with their school tend not to start posts about them on ESL forums. Just my two cents.
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Albert Cribbins



Joined: 19 Aug 2012
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Location: Sichuan

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:07 pm    Post subject: re: swiss model? Reply with quote

Can it be assumed then that Hess follows the "Swiss Model" in that it is about maximum profit and minimum possible pay to the FT's unfortunate enough to be overworked there?
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teacher4life



Joined: 22 Apr 2012
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:01 am    Post subject: Re: re: swiss model? Reply with quote

Albert Cribbins wrote:
Can it be assumed then that Hess follows the "Swiss Model" in that it is about maximum profit and minimum possible pay to the FT's unfortunate enough to be overworked there?


Yep, and you should know that at the higher levels, the foreigners consist of a LOT of American mormons. Make of that what you wish.
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AZJ



Joined: 02 Jan 2013
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:16 pm    Post subject: homy don't play dat? Reply with quote

"We do have lives outside the classroom, but some companies refuse to recognize this ."

rofl, this is a very immature attitude. Your life outside the company is not their concern. By being hired to Hess, or any other business at home or abroad, you take on a responsibility to be at work on time and in condition to do your job properly. Your lifestyle outside of work is your business but if it presents problems with doing your job, you should of course be fired. Time to grow up. I have a feeling you'll be posting a lot of negative responses about a lot of business in your lifetime.
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do_japan



Joined: 12 Dec 2012
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good resource to go snooping around on your potential employer is glassdoor.com. The website compiles employee reviews, job descriptions, salaries, and interview experiences, which can really give you a good idea of what you're up against. Of course, only major employers with lots of workers get reviewed, but look: Hess has 7 reviews on glassdoor already:

http://www.glassdoor.com/Overview/Working-at-Hess-Educational-EI_IE379093.11,27.htm

They have an average rating of 2.7 out of 5 stars, which is about comparable to most call center jobs. So it's not a dream job, but it's also not as bad as working in a Bangladeshi textile mill...
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Ferfichkin



Joined: 07 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For what itís worth, of the twenty of so foreign teachers that I worked with at Hess, around ĺ of them had been there for more than one year or had signed on for a second year after I left. Now, donít get me wrong, Iím not saying these people went around the office telling everyone how much they love Hess, but from what I could tell they seemed relatively happy with their jobs and appeared to care about their students. But there were two or three teachers who disliked the company and let you know about it. From what I remember, the biggest complaint was about grading homework, which I never really understood. I mean, youíre their teacher, who else is supposed to grade it? Most of the teachers would just chat and grade their homework before heading home. It was no big deal. It doesn't take that long.

Anyhow, I guess what Iím trying to say is that like most jobs, itís what you make of it. The two or three people who were having a negative experience at Hess were working at the same branches as the people who were having a positive experience.

I can understand why experienced teachers might not want to work at Hess since they donít allow for a lot of creative freedom in the classroom, but for new teachers with no experience, in my opinion, it can be a good option.
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