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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that 'Islamist' has connotations of extremism, i.e. fundamentalism, whereas 'Islamic' is neutral, as in Islamic architecture.

Could be wrong though... hic!
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Qaaolchoura



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sashadroogie wrote:
I think that 'Islamist' has connotations of extremism, i.e. fundamentalism, whereas 'Islamic' is neutral, as in Islamic architecture.

Could be wrong though... hic!

Maybe. However The Economist describes the AKP as a "mildly Islamist" or "moderate Islamist" political party, which seems like a contradiction under that definition. (And not just because the AKP isn't particularly "moderate" by the standards of any secular state.) I think it's more that "Islamist" indicates an ideology, a dreaded "-ism.

Personally I use it for any person or organization who advocates any privileged role for Islam in the public sphere.

~Q
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Ixchel



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, not trying to start a political debate. Has anyone else noticed the same thing happened with the words "entitled" and "titled." Almost overnight. I just looked up the word "entitled" in my ancient Webster's and it says:
[originally from Latin meaning title]
1: to give a title to: designate 2: to furnish with proper grounds for seeking or claiming something
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

True. But publications like the Economist seem to believe that the Western secularist idea of separation of religion and politics can be applied worldwide. This doesn't seem to be the case in the Islamic (!) world at all. What we call 'political Islam' is viewed as tautological in Muslim countries. So the word 'Islamist' has its fundamentalist associations watered down to just 'political' in Western newspapers etc.

Again, I could be wrong...
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