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madrileno
Joined: 19 Aug 2010 Posts: 270 Location: Salalah, Oman
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:35 am Post subject: |
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Would a B.A. in Foreign Languages and a CELTA be enough? |
The BA would have to be related in some way to English, so you wouldn't be eligible for positions with the MoE. With a CELTA though, you could try applying to positions with private recruiting companies or private universities... |
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izzi
Joined: 04 Nov 2012 Posts: 4
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:55 am Post subject: |
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I currently work in KSA and I can assure you that it is very possible to get a job here with only a BA in anything and maybe a year of international teaching experience. Many of my colleagues do not have the qualifications that I do (MA TESOL) but are nonetheless, great teachers. Saudi's cannot afford to be too picky. The lifestyle here is a buzz kill. |
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JZer
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3898 Location: Pittsburgh
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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izzi,
thanks for the advice. However if one is only getting paid $36,000 a year with a B.A. and some international teaching experience, I am not sure that it is worth it. |
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lizziebennet
Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 355
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:00 am Post subject: |
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Remember that the salary you mention is tax free and you get accommodation and transport. Also, the living cost in Saudi is much cheaper than in Oman or the UAE. |
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JZer
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3898 Location: Pittsburgh
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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lizziebennet wrote: |
Remember that the salary you mention is tax free and you get accommodation and transport. Also, the living cost in Saudi is much cheaper than in Oman or the UAE. |
It might be worth it to some. However one can earn $30,000 with free housing in South Korea. Taxes are almost nothing.
Is it worth living in Saudi for $6,000 a year? |
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truthbebold
Joined: 09 Aug 2011 Posts: 20
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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In korea you still have to pay bills though plus transportation and the tax can add up.
you are lucky to save 15 grand in korea where in saudi you could save 30 making 36 if you didnt travel |
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JZer
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3898 Location: Pittsburgh
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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truthbebold wrote: |
In korea you still have to pay bills though plus transportation and the tax can add up.
you are lucky to save 15 grand in korea where in saudi you could save 30 making 36 if you didnt travel |
So one could live on $6000 a year. However, what would one do with their free time?
Unless one is trying to write a novel, I would image living on $6000 would be really boring. |
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Dekadan
Joined: 09 Dec 2011 Posts: 95
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:05 am Post subject: |
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Does anyone know if it's possible to argue if a degree is related to English teaching? For example, mine is in Psychology where I studied courses such as psycholinguistics as well as other courses that teach how learning happens in the brain. That seems to me to be relevant to ESL teaching, but would that fall on deaf ears? |
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nomad soul
Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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Dekadan wrote: |
Does anyone know if it's possible to argue if a degree is related to English teaching? For example, mine is in Psychology where I studied courses such as psycholinguistics as well as other courses that teach how learning happens in the brain. That seems to me to be relevant to ESL teaching, but would that fall on deaf ears? |
Despite the psycholinguistics courses, I doubt employers would consider your psych degree as TEFL related. However, the addition of your Delta should give your CV a second look. |
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veiledsentiments
Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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Dekadan wrote: |
Does anyone know if it's possible to argue if a degree is related to English teaching? For example, mine is in Psychology where I studied courses such as psycholinguistics as well as other courses that teach how learning happens in the brain. That seems to me to be relevant to ESL teaching, but would that fall on deaf ears? |
I would guess that it would fall on deaf ears. I wouldn't accept it as such if I was the one perusing your application. While I took psycholinguistics and enjoyed it immensely, I find it a real stretch to argue that it affected my teaching at all. It didn't teach me anything about how to teach... it merely gave me an understanding of why my students might not be learning.
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Dekadan
Joined: 09 Dec 2011 Posts: 95
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Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:57 am Post subject: |
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Thanks VS and nomad soul for the response. A little frustrating to hear this, but not surprising; I've read other threads discussing the pros and cons of restricting the type of degree accepted.
I suspect that if I apply at the right time, i.e., when the term is fast approaching and the recruiters haven't found enough teachers, then I might have a chance of getting in. |
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nomad soul
Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:05 am Post subject: |
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Keep in mind, recruiters aren't the ones establishing degree requirements. Certainly apply anyway since you'll have your Delta. But also look at TEFL jobs in other countries---those that are more flexible in terms of the degree major. |
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veiledsentiments
Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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nomad soul wrote: |
Keep in mind, recruiters aren't the ones establishing degree requirements. |
It is the Ministry and they have cracked down on the recruiters tendency to hire any warm body.
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Sleepwalker
Joined: 02 Feb 2007 Posts: 454 Location: Reading the screen
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 6:18 am Post subject: |
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If you are keen to get to Oman, try the private universities and the institutes. Once you're here, do your contract and then apply to the colleges direct. |
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MuscatGary
Joined: 03 Jun 2013 Posts: 1364 Location: Flying around the ME...
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 4:49 am Post subject: |
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Hi Dekadan,
At least one recruiter (Hawthorn) is advertising now on here and on tefl.com. for Salalah, Ibri and Nizwa. This is mainly due to several teachers who started in September failing the probationary period.
My Bachelors is also in Psychology although my Masters is in Education so its worth giving it a go. Often teachers transfer from the recruiter to direct hire after a year. |
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