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[dynow]

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[dynow]

You started talking as if you knew anything about the cost of living in Florida, I called your bull$hit, and the next thing we know, you compare culture here vs. there, gun violence here vs. there, traffic here vs. there, insurance here vs. there, that there's nothing worth going to where I live but where you live....boy oh boy....it's an entertainment paradise.

Face it, you started in on Florida, I came in and told you what it really is here (because as always your internet jockeying proved inaccurate) and then you did the equivalent of, "but....but....well.....you have a stupid face so nahnuh nahnuh boo boo!"

[Master Shake]

I don't think you have a stupid face, dynow, if that makes you feel any better.

But I wouldn't want to live in Florida. I've been there. My sister just moved to Orlando for her job and she is not enjoying it.

Last week she saw sign spinners twirling "Get your concealed weapons licenses here!" signs near where she lives.

The reason this whole mass-debate has gone off the rails is because you can't put a price on quality of life, yet some are trying to. Argue cost of living or quality of life, but not both at the same time.

Or we could stop mass-debating and just go for a beer.

[delphian-domine]

[ecocks]

So......

I'll point out that everyone has their own definition of culture. For some it's gator-wrestling along some swamp highway; for others, a concert by the Tampa Orchestra while still others will live their whole life within an hour's drive of the Royal Shakespearean Theater and never go to a performance.

I lived in Florida a few years. In all I have lived in Denver, Los Angeles, Memphis, Seattle and Pensacola as well as Kyiv, Baku and now Gdansk at different points in my life. Visited in Prague, London, Paris, Rome, Munich, Venice, Florence, Geneva, Zurich, etc. Doesn't make me better, just a bit broader-based in my experience than some but of course not all.

Sometimes I liked beaches, sometimes mountains. Sometimes I want a good sandwich and coffee, other times I enjoyed putting on a suit and playing the social games. I saw the RSC perform Hamlet in Stratford, was close enough to touch the Mona Lisa and attended a concert premiere with Pierce Brosnan and a dozen other stars. However, I have also hunted deer in Idaho and Tennessee, been to Broadway plays in New York and spent time last week in DC touring the Smithsonian museums of American History and the Museum of Air and Space, still nothing beats a good pork BBQ sandwich.

Probably most expats have stories at least that good (although some sit in their hovels in 3rd world countries pretending different).

Individuals make choices based on their wants and desires, not some arbitrary definition of "culture" by another. To each their own.

Back to topic......

Buying a home here in Poland is expensive. Renting one is much less so. I see people here in Poland without the cash for a decent vacation (their admission, not mine) and unwilling to take the train to Malbork, much less Berlin.

Poland is cheaper overall but in many ways just as expensive when you look at relative salary levels and quality of construction. It is cheaper for most westerners due to elimination of transport costs from using public transit or walking more, far lower utility bills and cheaper housing if you live in a rented space. All of course, IMO.

If your idea of entertainment and feeding yourself involves 200 zl pub nights, trying to get a table next to Lech Walesa at his favorite restaurant or favoring the tarts at the local clubs then you're not going to find life here any cheaper.

[oipivo]

"We didn't even get to the point where you have a choice of Bud or Miller"

Hey now, the US brews some of the best beer in the world. It's just unfortunate that our macro beers are awful.

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