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Skipp



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:09 am    Post subject: Newbie in Berlin Reply with quote

I'm looking to teach abroad next year and am looking at either Spain, or Germany.

I'm 28 years old and female, have a BA in Human Rights and Politics, four years civil service experience and will have a CELTA by then. I haven't got any formal teaching experience, but have volunteered with kids.

Is September the best time to apply? Is Germany competitive?

I'm off to Berlin for a trip in May and heard it's amazing.

As an EU citizen, do I need a work permit?
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scot47



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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amazing place but full of the ghosts of the past. I was there more than 40 years ago in Berlin-West as a teacher. I found it quite difficult to get to know Berliners on anything more than a superficial level. I did come across Andreas Baader though.
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Skipp



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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just got back from Berlin and really liked it! May visit Cologne soon...

Was it a lonely city then? I live in London, so kinda know what you mean by closeness beyond being superficial.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read the 1946 novel by Fallada "Jeder stirbt fuer sich allein". Recently and surprisingly a best-seller in a new (and bad) English translation. UK title was Alone in Berlin. May be different in USofA

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thesuitthatdidnt



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:45 pm    Post subject: working in Berlin not the same as Germany Reply with quote

Work in Berlin is extremely low pay.
And ALL freelance...you will travel on tubes half the day..to teach
enuff to pay rent.

The rest of Germany is hit and miss in terms of contracts. They are conservative and have a very formal hiring process. Takes time to get a good solid job.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Germans have enough competent English teachers of German nationality. Why should they hire outsiders with dubious credentials ?
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Private language schools in Germany often hire CELTA-qualified teachers.

Many of the students weren't German-born and didn't go through the (pretty excellent in most cases) domestic school system.

Some native Germans did English at school but later on want to strengthen their skills, particularly in-field. To some degree, it's unlike in the Netherlands, where English-language media si more prevalent - Germans don't necessarily hear or use English on a daily basis, so it's easier to get rusty.

As for hiring 'outsiders,' there's still that bias towards native speakers to some degree, in some contexts (high-level academic/professional).
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teacher X



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:04 pm    Post subject: Re: working in Berlin not the same as Germany Reply with quote

thesuitthatdidnt wrote:
Work in Berlin is extremely low pay.
And ALL freelance...you will travel on tubes half the day..to teach
enuff to pay rent.



Sadly this was also my experience.

I moved there because my gf of several years was German and she was in love with the 'idea of Berlin'. You'll find a lot of people who are in a deep romance with Berlin, thinking it's all David Bowie and Brian Eno. Disappointingly I didn't find the romance; just financial strife.
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Loobs



Joined: 25 Aug 2010
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Location: Berlin, Germany

PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
The Germans have enough competent English teachers of German nationality. Why should they hire outsiders with dubious credentials ?


Assuming your credentials aren't 'dubious', I can imagine being in a better position being a native speaker, at least in some situations.
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Sashadroogie



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