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Sarcastro
Joined: 18 Dec 2010 Posts: 89 Location: Ann Arbor, MI
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Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 6:22 am Post subject: I Think I Figured Out CTFU's Agenda: Extort Agents/Schools |
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I mean it makes sense now. All the posturing, ranting, and "blacklists" is just a way for this group to make money the Chinese way, extortion and intimidation.
Take their MOD EDIT for instance. All it really consists of is a wall of text with names and links to one or two evidences of misdeeds or complaints. At the bottom of the list they state:
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The above is just a small sampling of the 317 dishonorable schools on our teacher's blacklist due to space limitations. |
Really, space limitations? I know that their website looks like it is from 1995 but how is there any limitations on text in 2013?
But here is the most telling part:
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Schools listed here are welcome to tell their side of the story in the comments section below and will have their names removed from this list only if they settle their disputes or after 24 months of complaint-free operation. For the complete CFTU consolidated blacklist, please send an email to CBL(at)ChinaForeignTeachersUnion.org |
Sure they can tell their side of the "story" by sending in a few thousand RMB to "settle their disputes" and their complaints just disappear. Kinda brilliant. |
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mw182006
Joined: 10 Dec 2012 Posts: 310
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Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:34 am Post subject: |
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Yeah it became pretty apparent even though I've only visited the site once or twice. The spam from various nicknames is probably a cheap way to get more hits and a higher ranking on google searches. I look forward to the various drive-by posters coming in to say, "boy leave it to all the grumpy/bitter veterans at dave's to disparage someone who's trying to improve teacher's lives!" etc. etc. |
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thechangling
Joined: 11 Apr 2013 Posts: 276
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Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:45 am Post subject: |
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With all the corrupt FAO's, TC's, agent's and recruiter's in China, I'm damn glad there's a site like their's to warn newbie's of the dangers in the middle kingdom. I smell a vested interest here because otherwise it's just plain illogical. |
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Banner41
Joined: 04 Jan 2011 Posts: 656 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:54 am Post subject: |
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Oh please don't give them an opening to put up more bogus links and puppet accounts to show up and say how great they are. It is well known it is a scam. |
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mw182006
Joined: 10 Dec 2012 Posts: 310
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Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:21 am Post subject: |
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thechangling wrote: |
With all the corrupt FAO's, TC's, agent's and recruiter's in China, I'm damn glad there's a site like their's to warn newbie's of the dangers in the middle kingdom. I smell a vested interest here because otherwise it's just plain illogical. |
Need's more apostrophe's'. |
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johntpartee
Joined: 02 Mar 2010 Posts: 3258
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Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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Here, you can borrow some of mine.
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Non Sequitur
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 4724 Location: China
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Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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Ive got a few Im not using.
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wangdaning
Joined: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 3154
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Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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They claim to be a Union for foreign teachers in China, all I need to know |
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choudoufu
Joined: 25 May 2010 Posts: 3325 Location: Mao-berry, PRC
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Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 1:35 am Post subject: |
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wangdaning wrote: |
They claim to be a Union for foreign teachers in China,..... |
but they are!
.....just as north korea is both democratic and a republic. |
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Prof.Gringo
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 2236 Location: Dang Cong San Viet Nam Quang Vinh Muon Nam!
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Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:31 am Post subject: |
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mw182006 wrote: |
Yeah it became pretty apparent even though I've only visited the site once or twice. The spam from various nicknames is probably a cheap way to get more hits and a higher ranking on google searches. I look forward to the various drive-by posters coming in to say, "boy leave it to all the grumpy/bitter veterans at dave's to disparage someone who's trying to improve teacher's lives!" etc. etc. |
It is in no way a legit site. |
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fat_chris
Joined: 10 Sep 2003 Posts: 3198 Location: Beijing
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Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:52 am Post subject: |
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johntpartee wrote: |
Here, you can borrow some of mine.
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Me too! Me too! Purty please! Purty please! Can I have some apostrophe's too? With sugar on top?
Warm regards,
fat_chris |
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Santos
Joined: 17 Oct 2013 Posts: 4 Location: Madrid/China
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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:55 am Post subject: |
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Sorry to ruin your theory but I went to a few of their meetings last year and from what I saw they helped quite a few FTs get their last pay checks and release letters and got the bitch from China ESL arrested for fraud. Unfortunately she went free in 2 days and is still screwing over teachers. |
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dean_a_jones
Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 1151 Location: Wuhan, China
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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:26 am Post subject: |
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Funny that you just joined, and then reposted their crappy links in another thread. Sounds like complete and utter BS to me.
I wish these morons would stop spamming this place, and their idiotic links deleted. |
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Santos
Joined: 17 Oct 2013 Posts: 4 Location: Madrid/China
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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:39 am Post subject: |
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Sorry to say dean but I was a member here since 2010 and got banned last year for getting in the face of someone who suggested we could not disagree with the majority. Long story short - I blew a fuse told him where to stick his "majority domination" theory. Anyway I am back and am still entitled to my own personal opinion. I am trying to be more civil this time. But no, I will not agree to crap that is bogus just because a handful of veterans think otherwise. But getting back on point... if these CFTU people were shaking anyone down for money it there would be people bitching and screaming all over the place by now. They've been around a few years and two of my good buds do volunteer work with them. They were the ones who dragged me to those meetings, but I'd rather spend my free time at Red House playing cards or getting laid. |
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muffintop
Joined: 07 Jan 2013 Posts: 803
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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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What name did you post under previously? |
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