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Sublime



Joined: 23 Apr 2011
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:44 pm    Post subject: TeachingChile.com Reply with quote

The only job I see posted for Chile on the web is with these guys TeachingChile.com

Does anyone know about them? Is it a bit of a con? As I see they charge an application fee of $50 and then a further $1,295 programme fee.
I've always been under the impression that you should never pay money for a job. Thoughts?
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Sublime



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Almost 80 views and no feedback? Confused

Surely someone must have had dealings with them as they seem to have a permanent (constantly re-posted) advert on the popular TEFL job posting websites.
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Lukas



Joined: 11 Jul 2010
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have to pay 1,300? Not much of a job, honestly.
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Don Alan



Joined: 11 Dec 2004
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Location: Glasgow, Scotland

PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This has come up before in the forum. Basically, if you want to encourage people to charge you for getting a job then you must feel pretty bad about yourself. It's a bad precedent to encourage these companies. As if EFL work isn't badly paid enough in general, we have to start paying others to get it for us. Better to invest in a decent teaching qualification, arrive in Chile and you will get work.
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Robert23



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did the program.

Yes, itís expensive and the jobs they offer are not the best (in terms of pay or conditions).

But they will give you "a" job, coaching and support to secure your immigration paperwork, find housing and deal with life in Chile, theyíll help you in an emergency, etc. Itís not great, but I still think it was the best viable option to get my foot in the door in Chile.

If your Spanish is fairly advanced and have the courage to show up blindly and find a job, there are plenty available. You could also make a decent living (by Chilean standards) on private tutoring at $20 per hour. People do do this, but it wasn't realistic for me.

It's not a scam, but it's up to you to decide if the service is worth the money. Obviously many people on this forum think not. But that's free market capitalism.
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jkrishnamurtidotorg



Joined: 15 Sep 2012
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robert23 wrote:
I did the program.

Yes, itís expensive and the jobs they offer are not the best (in terms of pay or conditions).

But they will give you "a" job, coaching and support to secure your immigration paperwork, find housing and deal with life in Chile, theyíll help you in an emergency, etc. Itís not great, but I still think it was the best viable option to get my foot in the door in Chile.

If your Spanish is fairly advanced and have the courage to show up blindly and find a job, there are plenty available. You could also make a decent living (by Chilean standards) on private tutoring at $20 per hour. People do do this, but it wasn't realistic for me.

It's not a scam, but it's up to you to decide if the service is worth the money. Obviously many people on this forum think not. But that's free market capitalism.


Is there the option to pay the fee in semester installments, or is it all up front?

Are the jobs renewable without the fee for the second year?

Are you able to pay for your living standards comfortably, are you struggling/conservative budget, or are you able to save at least a few hundred US per month?

If the pay was enough to live on at the job, I would probably seriously consider tutoring if its in demand down there.
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dackinator



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please dont use them. They are completely taking advantage and charging a ridiculous amount of money for something you dont even need.

There are plenty of English schools in Chile, and not many native speakers. If you want to teach there, the school term starts late February. So go at the start of the month and apply once you're there, and you will easily find a job. You dont need an agency for that.

Regarding the visa, the process is very easy. You arrive on a tourist visa, jobhunt, and once you get a job offer your school will then apply on your behalf for a work visa. Your school will help you with all of that, and arriving on a tourist visa is fine and completely legal.

I know dozens of teachers in Santiago who arrived like this and all found jobs really quickly. Not just at the start of february, but some who came in the middle of the year. The only bad time to go would be right now, because the school year finishes in December and everything is winding down.

Also you dont need to speak spanish to find jobs here. To apply for jobs either go to the school in person and give your CV, or send it with a covering letter via email (ideally both). Do it all in English. Half the schools here are ran by english people, and the other by people who speak fluent english, they will expect to speak to you in english even if you do know spanish.

For cost of living, I'd say the minimum you'd need is 450-500k CLP a month. This is for a shared apartment (150k), transport (50k), plus 50k a week on food. Obviously on this you wont save much. But there are several schools in santiago that pay a lot more, and there is a big demand for private lessons which you can use to supplement your income.


So no I dont think the agency is worth it. Everything they offer, the housing, visa, and job placement, you can easily do for yourself even with know knowledge of spanish. I did it and know many others that did to.
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Robert23



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jkrishnamurtidotorg wrote:
[1] Is there the option to pay the fee in semester installments, or is it all up front?

[2] Are the jobs renewable without the fee for the second year?

[3] Are you able to pay for your living standards comfortably, are you struggling/conservative budget, or are you able to save at least a few hundred US per month?

If the pay was enough to live on at the job, I would probably seriously consider tutoring if its in demand down there.


1. It's all up front. If you decide to drop out halfway, there are no refunds. You can sign up for just one semester, but I don't remember the cost being significantly less.

2. The jobs are not officially up for renewal, though I suppose you could negotiate it with the school on your own. But honestly, I don't know of a single example in which someone even "wanted" to stay on, much less succeeded in arranging it. Some folks do stay in Chile, but they find different jobs.

3. Personally, I've run deficits (thus dipping into my savings) every single month I've been here, in the hundreds of dollars. But I also like to go out and travel alot, and unlike many people in the program, I don't have any other paid work. If you're frugal, you could break even (not including the cost of airfare). If you get extra tutoring work, you could save money. But honestly, most people I know in the program struggle regularly with finances, even with extra work.

I agree with dackinator that you need about 500,000 pesos per month to live comfortably, not including your airfare and vacations in Latin America. But I disagree that it's realistic to secure your visa and housing without knowing Spanish OR relying on a third party; of course it's possible, but most people will find that quite overwhelming. Securing a job? That could go either way without Spanish.
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derekchile



Joined: 18 Jan 2013
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:36 pm    Post subject: Teaching Chile Reply with quote

I dont recommend it. I did the program...but let me tell you, they didnt help me with anything. Yeah they got me a job...and they passed me a cellphone with a map of santiago, but that was it....

They never found me a place to live or my friend who was also in the program. they have bbqs from time to time, big deal I paid a lot of money for what?

But I ended up having some problems with my workplace..or rather my workplace was actually deep in debt well before I started working there and didnt have the funds to pay the teachers. i went three months with out pay...i think this is something teachingchile.com should know about...and guess what after they got my money, they never helped me look for a nother job, contacted me, to see if I am still in Chile...so dont dont do it....with a tefl degree just walk the streets in santiago there are a million institutes you can do it!!!!!!
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FlyingJames



Joined: 26 Jan 2013
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Location: Australia

PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is an astronomical amount of money to be placed into a school. Maybe if the placement fee was around $200 I would consider it to get my foot in the door, but $1300? Who would pay for that?
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chica88



Joined: 28 Dec 2012
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not know if things have changed with this program...

But, I talked to a man from there about 8 months ago.
I sounds appealing especially when you have not taught in those parts to have someone in 'the know' to help find a job.
I can't remember his name right now.
But, I do remember he gave me a price of about $3000 USD.
I don't know why the price talked about on the forum is lower.

But, the man from the program talked to me for about one hour on the phone.
He seemed to have a fair amount of knowledge about Chile.
Even though I told him the price was to high for me he was still willing to answer some questions.
He did tell me that its really not possible to save money in Chile and in order to do that I should teach in Asia.

As for the paperwork - I can't say for sure with Chile but in other latin countries I have been there are usually English speaking immigration workers to help processing visas.
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awphawk



Joined: 01 May 2012
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Location: Lawrence, Kansas

PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:57 pm    Post subject: Teaching Chile Reply with quote

I am in this program now. The fee is $1,395 per person. It is not $3,000. Here is the link to their fee description.
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jkrishnamurtidotorg



Joined: 15 Sep 2012
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 4:58 am    Post subject: updates Reply with quote

awphawk

care to make any comments of your experiences so far?
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jkrishnamurtidotorg



Joined: 15 Sep 2012
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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 2:25 pm    Post subject: uhhhh Reply with quote

I find it hilarious that TeachingChile.com lists job advertisements on Dave's all the time, but don't care about updating their information.

Right now, they have jobs available that start March 2013 (orientation February 2013), and some dates for 2012.

It looks really unprofessional.
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awphawk



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did Teaching Chile July 2012 - July 2013. My wife and I paid 2800 for the two of us to do the program. We had a good experience. Yes you totally can show up in Santiago and find ESL work without too much problem. Maybe within a week or two you could arrange work. Pay maybe decent to good depending on experience and esl cert. We paid the fee because it was a more secure option with a contract and salary arranged before arriving. Also having a safety net of two professionals who could advise you on how to get by in Chile and in Santiago specifically. Honestly if you are the jump in head first type then just flying to Santiago and looking for work will probably work out. I met lots of people that did that as well as lots of people that did Teaching Chile and CIEE. I honestly think you can succeed either way. There is just more peace of mind to the Teaching Chile/CIEE option. All in all I would definitely recommend Chile to teach English. There is a lot to see around the Santiago area and there are plenty of jobs in Santiago. It is the safest and most developed country we saw during our travels (We saw Bolivia, Ecuador and Peru). Only danger is theft, which is very common. One downside is that the Spanish is much quicker and more accented. So for people looking to learn Spanish just be aware you will learn a specific dialect here but it is very possible to learn Spanish in Chile. I did. For budgets here I would say most people were breaking even or dipping into savings a little bit. Just depends how hard you are willing to work and where you want to live. Breaking even and even travelling some is very possible. (Our travels to other countries were from savings). Viva Chile! Be careful and good luck!
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