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backtothefront



Joined: 02 Sep 2012
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Location: uk

PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are able to gain the position of examiner in one country are you able to relocate and work as a as an IELTS examiner in other countries?
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vikeologist



Joined: 07 Sep 2009
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, the invitation to examine is essentially worldwide, but outside China there's much less work.
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canrun30



Joined: 03 Oct 2012
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My "office-mate" (is there a better term?? we share a small room) said last week that the Chinese government is talking about going after IELTS examiners and the BC for serious back taxes. Any truth to this tax issue, and if so, can anyone elaborate?

Could be nothing more than a rumor, just like doing away with the English portion of the Gaokao completely in some parts of China...
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NoBillyNO



Joined: 11 Jun 2012
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A co worker (he works in the same building but not the same uni) of mine who also doubles with IELTS has told me he heard the same rumor but so far "nothing".... if you have another job then likely you will not be checked.... If I am not mistaken IELTS cannot offer a RP so it could be that they will go after those with no visible (official) means of support. Although there is a lot of money being left on the table.....they will target those who they can collect from and who will not have the means to fight the obligation to pay tax. Much like the waitresses, in the US, who not have to pay a % of food sales to Uncle Sam, to weak of an occupation to resist the additional taxes with no representation or lobbying effort....taxes are coming, best we can do is to keep our heads down and our powder dry....or you could appeal to your own governments to sign a tax treaty with China......anyone think their "Homies" will come to the rescue.
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happeningthang



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IELTS have already taken steps to be compliant with the Chinese tax collector.

Previously, they would pay examiners their gross pay and tell them that tax payment was the individual examiners responsibility.

Technically, they were within their rights to do so - but I imagine it meant precious few of examiners were paying their taxes, and so now the British Council is retaining some agency to collect taxes on behalf of the examiners - have them pay it to the - and the examiners receive a net amount instead.

Smart move - really. No-one can complain about it- the Chinese government get what they want and life goes on.

As for chasing down individual examiners for back taxes - I doubt that's going to happen. Too much disruption and trouble that no-one wants. The Chinese government can't compel BC to do it - and they can't do it themselves.

The new arrangement is probably the result of the threat however - so it's already a done deal.
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canrun30



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My office mate (hate that term) is saying a large-scale strike may well be in the works if IELTS examiners are forced to sign the new agreement. Things have the potential to get VERY interesting here....
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theoriginalprankster



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am an examiner and I won't be signing the form that BC wants me to allowing a third party (government owned) to retain my taxes. They have said we will not be allowed to examine if we don't sign. Fine - end of time with BC.

Nor will I pay back taxes.

BC recently gave us a raise from 102/candidate to 122/candidate, then said they would be keeping 20/candidate in taxes. What BS!

Plenty examiners on the way out. Plenty newbies on the way in.

And just another example of a once respectable Western organization kowtowing to the Chinese gubment.

Time to change country. The sooner the better. I will re-certify in Jan/Feb, and be leaving China shortly after. Unless my Chinese gal handcuffs me to the bed.
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Javelin of Radiance



Joined: 01 Jul 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

canrun30 wrote:
My office mate (hate that term) is saying a large-scale strike may well be in the works if IELTS examiners are forced to sign the new agreement. Things have the potential to get VERY interesting here....

I doubt anyone will be forced to sign anything. They can sign or choose not to work if they don't want to pay taxes.

theoriginalprankster wrote:
I am an examiner and I won't be signing the form that BC wants me to allowing a third party (government owned) to retain my taxes. They have said we will not be allowed to examine if we don't sign. Fine - end of time with BC.

Why are you against paying tax on earned income?
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theoriginalprankster



Joined: 19 Mar 2012
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Javelin of Radiance wrote:
canrun30 wrote:
My office mate (hate that term) is saying a large-scale strike may well be in the works if IELTS examiners are forced to sign the new agreement. Things have the potential to get VERY interesting here....

No-one is going to be forced to sign anything. They can sign or choose not to work if they don't want to pay taxes.

theoriginalprankster wrote:
I am an examiner and I won't be signing the form that BC wants me to allowing a third party (government owned) to retain my taxes. They have said we will not be allowed to examine if we don't sign. Fine - end of time with BC.

Why are you against paying tax on earned income?


I pay my taxes myself, through a tax consultant. Not a shady firm owned the gubment.

Having been paying my taxes through a firm since 2005. It's staying that way.

Keep in mind that by working for BC you are working illegally. Hand all your info to this shady gubment firm, and they have ALL the dirt on ALL the examiners - which means we can ALL be kicked out if the gubment is having a bad day.

Think a little more about the consequences..
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