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ord2world
Joined: 20 May 2010 Posts: 55 Location: Jerez de la Frontera, Spain
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Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 5:09 am Post subject: Enlgish First Bali Employees: Please PM Me! |
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Hello,
I'm moving to Bali this July, but I'm not planning on working until I move to Japan in February. Plans can change, so I was thinking of applying to English First in Bali, but I don't wish to sign a one year contract. In an older post, someone worked "under the table" for this company and wasn't expected to commit for one year.
Is this still the case? I think it might be possible if I go to the school (I know where they are) in Denpasar. This wouldn't be my main source of income since it's quite low, but paired with tutoring online, it might help if funds get low.
Terima kasih!
Becca |
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Voyager2
Joined: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 34 Location: S.E Asia
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:31 am Post subject: |
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Yes it still happens. Call in and see them. Both EF and their online teaching sibling Englishtown are co-located on Hayam Waruk. |
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plumpy nut
Joined: 12 Mar 2011 Posts: 1652
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:33 am Post subject: |
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I have a friend with a bachelor's from Australia who is arriving in Bali soon to teach at EF. I am wondering about what he is looking at as well. |
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Voyager2
Joined: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 34 Location: S.E Asia
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:37 am Post subject: |
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What he is looking at? Long hours, low salary - but enough to survive comfortably, friendly Balinese, low cost of living, lovely mornings and a heavy heavy workload if you do online. Without a visa, youll be doing a mix of online and face to face. Hope that helps. Regards v2 |
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Tazz
Joined: 26 Sep 2013 Posts: 512 Location: Jakarta
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 4:46 am Post subject: |
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Bali and EF make the perfect combination for pulling in the backpacker/surfer 'do a bit of teaching to pay my way' type....lovely mornings dealing with the heavy workload...dreaming of hitting the beach while eating the Balinese version of Bubur Ayam or Rujak at a street side food stall everyday cos that's all they can afford. There ARE serious options for teachers in Bali-[Green School, Ghandi International...] for those who are serious.... |
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Voyager2
Joined: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 34 Location: S.E Asia
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:30 am Post subject: |
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It's not only surfer types Tazz, its not just 'surfer types' you ought to resist that easy stereotype.
There are many older people whose presence here is a choice, all things considered. Further, the International Schools you write of 'for those who are serious' is a bit disingenuous, you'll need a B.Ed or B.A with a GradDipEd, a recognised teaching qualification. More than a BA. |
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Tazz
Joined: 26 Sep 2013 Posts: 512 Location: Jakarta
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:22 am Post subject: |
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Putting aside the stereotype lets just say that 'serious' means 'legal'-as I and others have already stated in other discussions-getting hired legitimately in Indonesia is a grey area......but people travelling to Bali [regardless of age, gender or motivation for doing so] intending to work 'under the table' as the OP stated are asking for trouble and probably deserve to find it. |
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BekasiWhistle
Joined: 19 Jul 2013 Posts: 23 Location: Bangkok
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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Tazz wrote: |
Putting aside the stereotype lets just say that 'serious' means 'legal'-as I and others have already stated in other discussions-getting hired legitimately in Indonesia is a grey area......but people travelling to Bali [regardless of age, gender or motivation for doing so] intending to work 'under the table' as the OP stated are asking for trouble and probably deserve to find it. |
I don't think teachers deserve to get in trouble. These schools are often misleading. TBI lies to people that business consultant visas are "almost legal" when they are completely illegal. I know a few people who have got stung. But if your point is beware of Indonesia- hati hati in Indonesia- I agree with that. It's a cowboy industry. |
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Tazz
Joined: 26 Sep 2013 Posts: 512 Location: Jakarta
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:31 am Post subject: |
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Being misled by cowboy employers is something to look out for-TBI for example. However, work visa's are valid for 1 year-if done legitimately they cost the employer a considerable sum, hence no employer will ever hire somebody for, say 6 months....isn't going to happen. The OP is aware of this-wants to spend some time in Bali as a 'stepping stone' before moving to Japan-working here 'illegally' or 'under the table' as stated...Indonesia isn't the country to do this. And furthermore, Bali isn't the destination in Indonesia to do this! Bali's immigration are always 'on the prowl' as it were, and if caught working illegally the OP can certainly kiss goodbye to his/her plans for Japan-the arrest + deportation order in the passport will take care of that. |
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bradleycooper
Joined: 12 Apr 2013 Posts: 310
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:19 am Post subject: |
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Tazz wrote: |
Being misled by cowboy employers is something to look out for-TBI for example. However, work visa's are valid for 1 year-if done legitimately they cost the employer a considerable sum, hence no employer will ever hire somebody for, say 6 months....isn't going to happen.. |
I agree that people are mad to come to Indonesia and work "under the table". Deportations don't happen every day, but they are a real possibility. A few major chains have seen them happen in the past. There are a lot of corrupt officials in Indonesia (this is an understatement actually) and they can be quite predatory. You don't want to get caught up in a raid. There are now several different government departments "squeezing" schools- Manpower, Immigration and DIKNAS. If you want a short-term contract, try Cambodia or Thailand. |
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