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My quest for Romanian citizenship
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Henry_Cowell



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can this long-running thread really be dead?
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Presumably she finally gave up.
Wasn't that she wanted so much to live/work in Romania anyway, according to the long-term info; it was going to be a free ticket into the rest of Europe.

I believe she's in China or Korea, and the demands of motherhood have likely (and probably rightfully) derailed lots of extra-curricular activities such as chasing the citizenship ticket into Europe.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you hold it down I will drive the spike through its chest.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please, and thank you, scot!
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
Has the lady given up on her quest for citizenship ?


she is doing quiite well as I have recently been in touch with her. I didnt know about the Romanian thing so it didnt come up. I will check with her and let you all know. My impresson was she was still in Korea as of last week.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
Romanian pensions - like US Social Security pensions are contributory. You have to pay in before you can qualify.

Our would-be Romanian has not posted for a time. I wonder what has been happening. I think she is teaching in the Middle East (or Korea ?)

Yep. I know. I have every intention to pay into it. In Korea. The ME beckons but the hot weather keeps me away.

spiral78 wrote:
Citizenship laws are pretty tight and these days in most countries (I can't speak for Romania specifically) you need to show that you've got a significant and long-term commitment to the country to be granted citizenship. Meaning paying into local systems.

JoR is correct that the Romanian officials are highly unlikely to grant anyone citizenship without a visible and significant commitment to the country. Not enough to have been born to an erstwhile Romanian.

I do have a commitment. I aim to change birthing. I've done a lot here. I have no reason to believe the same can't be done in Romania.

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naturegirl321 wrote:
Basically, Europe would be open to both of us. Even if we don't work there, we could own property, send our kids to school, hopefully get pension, etc.

Even if you don't work there you expect and hope to collect a Romanian pension? Just who is paying for that and how do you justify your entitlement to any pension? There are legitimate concerns with people holding various passports. moving around the world and double and triple dipping pensions and other benefits while not actually contributing anything. Do you plan to collect American social security and a pension from wherever your third passport is too?

I left the USA when I was 19. I still pay into SS though. Very little. But it's something. Since I contribute yearly I might get a pension. IF it's still around that is. I DO plan on working in Romania. I'll explain more below. My seonc passport is from Latin America and I'll be sending that pension money to my Korean pension which will then get sent to the US when ai leave Korea. Meaning that I'd only have the US pension.

spiral78 wrote:
Presumably she finally gave up.
Wasn't that she wanted so much to live/work in Romania anyway, according to the long-term info; it was going to be a free ticket into the rest of Europe.

I believe she's in China or Korea, and the demands of motherhood have likely (and probably rightfully) derailed lots of extra-curricular activities such as chasing the citizenship ticket into Europe.


Actually I got my birth cert but red tape made the rest of the docs impossible to get. And I had been planning on working in Romania. I'd been in touch with a handful of people and was looking at property or a hostel as well as the birthing business which has become a second career for me. Business is booming as well. Wink

Im in Korea. Motherhood was one of the reasons I kept at this for so long.

Long story short I have to re apply for my birh cert in Chicago his summer. The Romanian embassy here in Seoul is by far staffed by the nicest people I've dealt with over the years.

Strange that so many people have written about pension. I've always paid into one. I have no reason to try to avoid paying into a local system. Nor would I expect to receive something that I hadn't originally contributed to.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would check on that entitlement to US Social Security Pension. My impression was that you had to be an employee and making contributions AS AN EMPLLOYEE for the equivalent of 10 years to get anything as a pensioner.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
I would check on that entitlement to US Social Security Pension. My impression was that you had to be an employee and making contributions AS AN EMPLLOYEE for the equivalent of 10 years to get anything as a pensioner.


http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10022.pdf
From what I understand I can still qualify. I simply pay double what an employee does.
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