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[aaaronr]

Hello all,

Anybody have any information on this school? Specifically, what is the client ratio kids to adults? Hours per week?

The pay is listed as 4000-7000 zloty. Is this livable in Warsaw?

I have a CELTA, MA ESL, MA Journalism, two years of teaching experience (community college), and 4 years of tutoring English/ESL at community college. I'm hoping the pay will be on the higher end for my qualifications.

Thanks,

Aaron in Arizona

[dragonpiwo]

Are they providing you with accommodation? A few of the posters on this forum live there and might help you out with privates etc. Google the cost of living guides too. 7,000Zl is livable but I wouldn't want to do it long-term.

I was in Warsaw a couple of months ago, I used to live there, and while it's cheaper than London, it really isn't that cheap.

We had a Thai meal out for 3 (myself and 2 Poles) just off Nowy Swiat, 1 bottle of house wine, no desserts and only 2 starters to pick at and it came to 500Zl. I thought that was a lot!

[Janek]

xxx

[delphian-domine]

[ecocks]

[dragonpiwo]

IMHO 7,000 (if he gets that) minus accommodation isn't a great wage.

The place was called 'Papaya' go there Delph. Unremarkable in itself. I was there with the Finance Director of one of the large U.S. hotels in Warsaw and my fiancée. Just a quiet reunion-type meal out. Same sort of prices as Thai Thai in Sopot. The Intercon was 600 a night with a discount due to aforementioned friend.

Once again Delph comments on a place he's never himself actually been to. And, yawn, once again Delph brings up Libya. I like my job, my job fits our working lives very well and enables me to experience every aspect of life in Poland. I love swimming, it's my hobby (along with snorkeling) and I live next to one of the most pristine beaches (protected inside the vast company area) I've ever seen. I have a mixed social life here, eat , drink and like my students. However, I wouldn't recommend it to the uninitiated, most of whom will end up working for dodgy outfits, which I don't.

I do eat kebabs and I do have the odd parowka. Get over it, I don't live
like you all of the time. I certainly don't blow my dosh on grog, the odd splurge perhaps. However, I will ask you (the poster) to ask yourself this: Could I live in a big U.S. city on $2,000 minus rent happily? If the answer is yes, then you'll be fine.

We earn more than that top Zloty figure in Dollars a month and have a free car in Poland and other benefits like free private health insurance, phone etc, so I can afford to do what I want thanks. My life in Libya is free except for my car, which I bought. 10 (yes ten)Zl fills the tank!

Why Warsaw?

[dragonpiwo]

Delph, go to Hotelarnia, go to the Pelikan building, go to Papaya or Thai Thai and then comment.

Just stop commenting on places you've never been to. It isn't a measuring contest. However, if you want to make it one here goes.

1-I came to Poland in 1996 when did you?
2-I've been a qualified teacher since 1995 and you?
3-I save more than you make in a year AND raise a kid.

I've obviously done something wrong haven't I? What a fool I am!

I don't have to show off or prove myself to anyone here. I just relate facts and give opinions. There are those who comment on places they've never actually been to. There are those who ponced off the missus for a while. There are those who don't live adult life styles with the corresponding aspirations. I'm in my early 40's, have a kid, a new wife and a really good life and enjoy things that I didn't even consider when I first moved to Poland. For me, sharing a flat is not an option and neither is unreliable private work. Providing for my family is my primary concern. That's where I'm coming from.

[Richfilth]

If you told a Pole that you were having a hard time living on 7000PLN a month in Warsaw, they'd laugh you back to the airport. You can have a really good lifestyle here on that sort of money, even as a single person with no family here to support you financially. Many Poles raise a kid on a combined salary that's less than that.

Deduct your tax. This will probably be umowa o dzielo contract, so 10% - 700zl gone.

A flat, all bills and internet would cost you about 2000PLN for somewhere decent.

A monthly travel card for unlimited use of public transport would be about 100PLN.

A weekly supermarket shop where you bought as much meat as you wanted, a couple of bottle of booze and some decent cosmetics, will set you back around 3-400 - so 1200-1600 per month if you want to eat like a king.

Add on a premium healthcare policy (150zl) and you've still got a few thousand left in the bank to cover sick leave, holidays, clothes, or incredible nights out at Thai restaurants where you presumably order everything on the menu but still skip dessert.

[ecocks]

[dragonpiwo]

So he needs to ask them if he gets paid 12 months of the year. He needs to ask them if he is 'allowed' to work for anyone else contractually. He needs to ask them if he's paying 10 or 20% tax and the ZUS.

In his personal life he needs to think about an annual trip home and how much that's going to cost. He also needs to set some goals whether they be financial or travel related or whatever.

He needs to be told that it's probably best to buy all his winter wardrobe back home and bring it.

He'll do well to get a decent flat for 2,000 Zl/month including bills IMHO.

All that said, the privates market is much much more robust in Warsaw than in a lot of other places.

Good luck to him whatever he decides to do.

[delphian-domine]

[dragonpiwo]

Yet more piffle. We had an upgrade on the 34th floor. Our friend is the Finance Director, so we hardly got ripped off. Have you been on Groupon or Laterooms.com again? It was reduced from about 1k a night.

I like my job and it suits us and our goals. I'm older, have more outgoings and a family to support. Get that into your swede or go see a shrink.

I don't think 7,000Zl a month if that's what they actually offer him minus tax, zus, rent, bills, groceries, travel etc etc will give him much of a future in the long-run. Good for a short 1 to 2 year jolly. He'll find that missus. Good luck to him.

[delphian-domine]

[dragonpiwo]

Are you on meds or summit?

I 'made it' in Poland. Aside from being a key writer for a national magazine, being a Cambridge Examiner, teaching at UAM and doing a lot of recording/TV recording work simultaneously, I also had a kid then. I made more then, than you make now, so stop blowing smoke up your own hole. Been there, done it and bought the t-shirt. I made a choice and it's worked out well for me.

[dragonpiwo]

Much more of a future Delph? I've got a full-time, weel paid job and have been here since 2004. I think that's pretty stable myself. What's more it's till I'm 65+ should I choose not to come and work in Poland again.

Go Google the top rooms in the Intercon and get back to me. Better still, go there. Since one of my missus' closest friends virtually runs the place, I'm sure we didn't actually get ripped off but you know better of course. Like you know better about racist Polish banking policies. The Poles I actually work with in the same office building have 'nay bother' with Visa Cards. Same contract, they earn less and have the same tax arrangements. We've spoken at length. Instability? Been here since 2004. Gloomy future? I think not. Own a flat and a half with no mortgage. Buying the next one in the very near future. My son also has a flat and he's 15. And stop banging on about 500Zl nights because that isn't even a night out. %,000Zl, now that's a night out.

Re the OP, I don't think anyone wants to be earning 1,400 quid a month in Europe in 2014. Get with the times. Better still, get a life instead of Googling one.