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lucifer911
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 3:44 am Post subject: How can I get EU passport if my father was born in Croatia? |
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I was born in Australia. My father escaped Croatia during Yugoslavia period.. but he doesn't have his birth certificate on him.
How can I help him get his certificate? on my birth certificate it says his birth place in Croatia. My mother is Australian.
Has anyone managed to get their EU passport without fathers or mothers birth certificate? I am just concerned if I don't get hold of his birth certificate now I may not have a chance in the future. My father has not travelled outside Australia for this reason.
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grahamb
Joined: 30 Apr 2003 Posts: 1945
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 8:17 am Post subject: Birth certificate |
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Surely the Croatian consulate in Australia would be the obvious starting point? |
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naturegirl321
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 11:30 am Post subject: |
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I know someone who may be able to help. I'll PM you. |
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scot47
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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It would be a Croatian passport not an EU passport. Documents are issued by the individual stats of the EU. |
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lucifer911
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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if I hold a croatian passport this means I can teach english in all countries of the EU without needing a work visa correct?
scot47 wrote: |
It would be a Croatian passport not an EU passport. Documents are issued by the individual stats of the EU. |
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spiral78
Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmm. Not necessarily. Each country can make its own rules regarding whether citizens of (newer) member states are eligible for visa-free working status. Croatia is quite new; it is likely that some western European countries still impose restrictions.
However, it would certainly widen your prospects in Europe overall, and ultimately would give you ingress to all EU countries (though as noted above this may be a few years down the road).
Keep in mind that Europe is NOT a lucrative EFL market, though, regardless of quals and passport, particularly if one wants to do it nomad-style. |
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MuscatGary
Joined: 03 Jun 2013 Posts: 1364 Location: Flying around the ME...
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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spiral78 wrote: |
Hmmm. Not necessarily. Each country can make its own rules regarding whether citizens of (newer) member states are eligible for visa-free working status. Croatia is quite new; it is likely that some western European countries still impose restrictions.
However, it would certainly widen your prospects in Europe overall, and ultimately would give you ingress to all EU countries (though as noted above this may be a few years down the road).
Keep in mind that Europe is NOT a lucrative EFL market, though, regardless of quals and passport, particularly if one wants to do it nomad-style. |
Agreed, this is up to date:
"Nationals of Croatia
Your right to work as an employee in another EU country may be restricted by transitional arrangements until 30 June 2020.
You may need a work permit to work in these countries:
Austria, Greece, Slovenia, Belgium, Italy, Spain, Cyprus, Luxembourg, UK, France, Malta, Germany and the Netherlands."
You will also find that some of these countries also require tefl teachers to have at least some knowledge of the host country language. As Spiral has said the cash is not always great, split shifts are common, rents can be high, especially in the capitals which is where most of the work is, and tax and national insurance can eat into earnings.
However if you really want to live in Europe then good luck! |
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DosEquisX
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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Like your chances in Poland, Czech Republic, and Hungary OP. |
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spiral78
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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Sure, CEE is open with a passport from Croatia. Not high on the pay scales, though. |
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lucifer911
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 12:05 am Post subject: |
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I think the rule is whenever Croatia decides to update their passport to a burgundy cover then they will be eligible for VISA free status in more EU countries. Currently their passport has a blue cover unlike all the other EU members who all use red / burgundy passport covers. This could take a few years but by the time I am done with degree and ready to apply for jobs hopefully they will have updated their passport.
It is mainly the CEE countries which appeal to me despite the average pay. Czech, Hungary and Slovakia are countries I would like to work in.
Here is a list of EU passports if you are curious. Scroll to the bottom and you can see croatian passport is the only blue passport
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passports_of_the_European_Union
spiral78 wrote: |
Hmmm. Not necessarily. Each country can make its own rules regarding whether citizens of (newer) member states are eligible for visa-free working status. Croatia is quite new; it is likely that some western European countries still impose restrictions.
However, it would certainly widen your prospects in Europe overall, and ultimately would give you ingress to all EU countries (though as noted above this may be a few years down the road).
Keep in mind that Europe is NOT a lucrative EFL market, though, regardless of quals and passport, particularly if one wants to do it nomad-style. |
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lucifer911
Joined: 02 Feb 2009 Posts: 58
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 12:13 am Post subject: |
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thanks.. it will take some time but I think the idea is when Croatia update their passport to match similar passports of other european countries then they will be eligible for VISA free status. You will find all the european passports are red / burgundy colour except Croatia.
At the moment it is mainly the eastern european countries which appeal to me. Scroll to the bottom of this page if you are curious to see what euro member passports look like.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passports_of_the_European_Union
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spiral78 wrote: |
Hmmm. Not necessarily. Each country can make its own rules regarding whether citizens of (newer) member states are eligible for visa-free working status. Croatia is quite new; it is likely that some western European countries still impose restrictions.
However, it would certainly widen your prospects in Europe overall, and ultimately would give you ingress to all EU countries (though as noted above this may be a few years down the road).
Keep in mind that Europe is NOT a lucrative EFL market, though, regardless of quals and passport, particularly if one wants to do it nomad-style. |
Agreed, this is up to date:
"Nationals of Croatia
Your right to work as an employee in another EU country may be restricted by transitional arrangements until 30 June 2020.
You may need a work permit to work in these countries:
Austria, Greece, Slovenia, Belgium, Italy, Spain, Cyprus, Luxembourg, UK, France, Malta, Germany and the Netherlands."
You will also find that some of these countries also require tefl teachers to have at least some knowledge of the host country language. As Spiral has said the cash is not always great, split shifts are common, rents can be high, especially in the capitals which is where most of the work is, and tax and national insurance can eat into earnings.
However if you really want to live in Europe then good luck! |
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DosEquisX
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 12:32 am Post subject: |
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I was able to get my Irish passport through my grandmother. It took over 2 years to gather all of the paperwork (took 9 months for the US State Department to hand over my grandmother's expired Irish passport).
Since you're only one generation lower, the process should be much shorter for you. However, it won't be cheap and won't be incredibly fast. |
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lucifer911
Joined: 02 Feb 2009 Posts: 58
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 1:44 am Post subject: |
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thanks... not in a huge rush to get Croatian passport I am more concerned with obtaining fathers birth certificate for now. When I have solid TEFL qualifications I will pursue Croatian passport.
DosEquisX wrote: |
I was able to get my Irish passport through my grandmother. It took over 2 years to gather all of the paperwork (took 9 months for the US State Department to hand over my grandmother's expired Irish passport).
Since you're only one generation lower, the process should be much shorter for you. However, it won't be cheap and won't be incredibly fast. |
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delphian-domine
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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lucifer911 wrote: |
I think the rule is whenever Croatia decides to update their passport to a burgundy cover then they will be eligible for VISA free status in more EU countries. Currently their passport has a blue cover unlike all the other EU members who all use red / burgundy passport covers. This could take a few years but by the time I am done with degree and ready to apply for jobs hopefully they will have updated their passport. |
Colour of passport is irrelevant. Each EU country has the right to impose restrictions on Croatian nationals for up to 7 years after accession. The colour of the passport or identity card is absolutely irrelevant in this case. |
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DosEquisX
Joined: 09 Dec 2010 Posts: 361
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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lucifer911 wrote: |
thanks... not in a huge rush to get Croatian passport I am more concerned with obtaining fathers birth certificate for now. When I have solid TEFL qualifications I will pursue Croatian passport.
DosEquisX wrote: |
I was able to get my Irish passport through my grandmother. It took over 2 years to gather all of the paperwork (took 9 months for the US State Department to hand over my grandmother's expired Irish passport).
Since you're only one generation lower, the process should be much shorter for you. However, it won't be cheap and won't be incredibly fast. |
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I stand corrected. It was my Irish citizenship that took 2 years. The passport took far less time. |
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