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kurtz



Joined: 12 Mar 2008
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good post, sarge. It does highlight the problems of this forum though. My comments on ACE stem from an experienced teacher; however, your post talks about someone wanting to experience Cambodia - big difference.

I enjoyed my holiday in Cambodia, but low wages, brutally hot weather, gun crime, bag snatching and assorted scams, no thanks. Yes, I know Cambodia is not alone in that Wink
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Dave_1



Joined: 11 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1st Sgt Welsh wrote:
kurtz wrote:
Cambodia as a holiday destination, fine. Cambodia to live on USD$1000-1500/month, you've got to be joking. Let's keep the goalposts in line. Experienced teacher and aforementioned wage with no sick pay or holiday pay with a realistic schedule of 6am to 8 pm; only for backpackers.

Pass.


In regards to the hours, my friends who worked there did say that splits came up, but, from memory, it was not that brutal. Personally, I hate split-shifts, but, alas, it's common in TEFL and I had to do them when I was working at ACET in Saigon Sad. We would have a 7:45am class for 4 hours then a two-hour lesson at 6:15 p.m. However, I didn't have to do them all the time and management spread the hours out as fairly as they could. In regards to the pay, I could support myself easily in Cambodia on $1500 a month. I doubt I would save that much though.

If you don't think Cambodia is a viable option for a teacher then no one is trying to convince you. You don't even like the country. However, for those who like/love Cambodia and want to experience living there, the fact remains that ACE is the best school to work for. If someone wants to spend a year or two experiencing a beautiful, welcoming country with a fascinating history then I can understand that. If it is not your cup of tea, then fine.


I'd be extremely wary of ACE due to the number of public holidays and gaps between terms/semesters...all unpaid. One could get 26-28hrs a week at one point but that ended when new DoSor policy came in... cut everyone to 18-20hrs a week as they didn't want to compromise quality..let them do their job better by reducing hours burden.so kind of them eh?..obviously just great for teacher..a 6hr a week pay cut. It may have changed but it wasn't good from reports I had from staff a year or so back. Some classes fine but some very tricky characters too...and Cambodians do not do face to face complaining..sadly the non confrontation aspect can lead to more two face than one...they will drop by admin and say what they feel they can't directly..it's just culture and not fault of students as such. Be wary of ACE
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AlwaysBeClosing



Joined: 13 Nov 2012
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kurtz wrote:
Hello alwaysbeclosing,

I am sorry if my comments made you upset. However, I didn't do a degree and gain several years of teaching experience to work for peanuts in a shitehole like Cambodia. Furthermore, I don't give a damn if Siem Reap is less developed; I still would have been working for ACE and thus would have expected a good hourly rate.

If ACE suits your obviously basic needs, go for it; however, I don't want to be living in abject poverty upon retirement so I have found work more in line with my experience and skill level.

Have a nice day.


Not upset in the slightest, just calling you out.

If you're not interested then why post here? Thankfully, I like "shiteholes" like Cambodia as there's something to do, an aspect of being able to change something in whatever way.

They offer an amazing hourly rate - apparently paying more in a day than most Cambodians early in a month is low to you. Great, you've got such high standards that price you out of most countries in the world.

If you're in ESL, then IELTS and EAP is up there in terms of skill levels that you require. If you want more, teach English to natives then?

1st Sgt Welsh wrote:
kurtz wrote:
Cambodia as a holiday destination, fine. Cambodia to live on USD$1000-1500/month, you've got to be joking. Let's keep the goalposts in line. Experienced teacher and aforementioned wage with no sick pay or holiday pay with a realistic schedule of 6am to 8 pm; only for backpackers.

Pass.


In regards to the hours, my friends who worked there did say that splits came up, but, from memory, it was not that brutal. Personally, I hate split-shifts, but, alas, it's common in TEFL and I had to do them when I was working at ACET in Saigon Sad. We would have a 7:45am class for 4 hours then a two-hour lesson at 6:15 p.m. However, I didn't have to do them all the time and management spread the hours out as fairly as they could. In regards to the pay, I could support myself easily in Cambodia on $1500 a month. I doubt I would save that much though.

If you don't think Cambodia is a viable option for a teacher then no one is trying to convince you. You don't even like the country. However, for those who like/love Cambodia and want to experience living there, the fact remains that ACE is the best school to work for. If someone wants to spend a year or two experiencing a beautiful, welcoming country with a fascinating history then I can understand that. If it is not your cup of tea, then fine.


6am-8pm never happens in Phnom Penh, not unless you ask for it. There are early hours like that, but they don't expect you to work that long, they finish you early because of the start. Never heard of anyone doing split shifts either - there were plenty doing Tues/Thurs/Sat, Mon/Weds/Fri/Sat, some doing Mon-Sat because they wanted to get paid, and Mon-Fri with Mon/Wed/Fri as evenings only.

Vietnam is different, well, Saigon anyway (where I'm at right now) as only youngsters tend to study in the daytime at public schools for the most part; everyone else studies morning or late afternoon/evening-time. Just the way it is there - thankfully Penh is different!

With regards to $1,500 a month, sometimes I was getting less and still managed to save a lot. $5 towers of beer and $1/$2 meals go a long way, as well as the ability to cook.
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