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Van Gogh
Joined: 12 Oct 2008 Posts: 71
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 7:02 am Post subject: Teaching in Lyon |
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I managed to find work pretty quickly.
I'd be interested in hearing from any other TEFL'ers in the region. |
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nfig77
Joined: 20 Jun 2011 Posts: 52 Location: ITB Research Facility in Shenzhen
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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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Me too, thanks. |
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i_morales
Joined: 21 Dec 2014 Posts: 11
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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:03 am Post subject: |
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Hi Van Gogh and Nfig77,
Would you both please share a little bit more about your experience finding work in France.
Are you Schengen citizens?
Are you working for universities?
How did you find out about your position?
A little about me: I'm an ESL teacher in Morocco with a year of experience (this summer 2015) and I'm interested in finding work in France this summer and or Fall.
I'm an American citizen without a French visa.
I understand that there are plenty of redlines to cross before I can get my official work permit and visa to work in France as a teacher so my concerns aren't so much about getting around this. Instead, my main question to both of you is, where, and, more importantly, how was your job hunt?
Any tips and advice is welcome!
How's Lyon?
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nfig77
Joined: 20 Jun 2011 Posts: 52 Location: ITB Research Facility in Shenzhen
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Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 10:06 am Post subject: |
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My understanding is that with a public-sector job, HR will secure the visa. So teaching at a French uni, for example, is possible for an American. Other situations could prove more difficult. Good luck! |
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spiral78
Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 10:16 am Post subject: |
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Yes, any university can request an exceptional visa. The problem is that 'you' have to have qualifications and experience that no EU citizen who applied for the job has. Given that the market is quite competitive for such jobs (there are an astounding lot of related MA holders out there!) it's unlikely to happen for most people. |
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MuscatGary
Joined: 03 Jun 2013 Posts: 1364 Location: Flying around the ME...
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Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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I know several non-EU teachers who have managed to get work by going down the auto-entrepreneur route. Not easy, lots of paperwork involved and tricky if you don't have good French but possible. |
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Van Gogh
Joined: 12 Oct 2008 Posts: 71
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Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:32 pm Post subject: Finding work in France |
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IMHO finding a year's work in France is not so difficult for non Europeans as long as you are white and have some experience or a basic cert. Finding accommodation and getting a bank account may prove more difficult. For the first year you can get lost in the system, even for two years until it's time to pay taxes, then you leave. The pay is crap. Most schools pay between 18 & 20 euros for an hour after they take out social security payments and a dozen other small charges you may clear between 13 & 15. Some schools have a 45 day delay before paying after you put in your hours and travel invoice. Private work pays better, cash in hand is rare as everyone can claim a large percentage of money spent on training back from the government.
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i_morales
Joined: 21 Dec 2014 Posts: 11
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:55 pm Post subject: Feedback |
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Great advice from everyone, thanks! |
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Abhorsen
Joined: 17 Feb 2015 Posts: 1
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Hi everyone. I'm currently living in Lyon and will be finishing my TEFL very soon. I will be looking for work as an English teacher/tutor and am interested if anyone has any recommendations of places in Lyon?
I'm Australian/British so I'm an EU citizen thus I have no issues with needing a visa. I've been living in France for almost 2 years now so I have all the normal paperwork things (bank accounts, etc) set up. I have 2 university degrees too and I know some places ask for that.
I know there are a couple of businesses that specialise in English teaching, but I'm unsure as to whether I should apply to them or not. I've heard terrible things about Wall Street English; an ex-teacher told me the pay was horrible (like 9-10€ per hour) and that the environment wasn't supportive. As I'm going to be looking for full-time work I'd want to work somewhere where I can support myself financially, so with decent pay, but somewhere that's also supportive as well.
I'm just a bit concerned that I wont find anything because: 1) I have no teaching experience, and 2) I didn't do a CELTA (I did a 140hr i-to-i online TEFL).
If anyone has any advice it would be great to hear from you!
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AGoodStory
Joined: 26 Feb 2010 Posts: 738
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 6:17 pm Post subject: Re: Finding work in France |
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Van Gogh wrote: |
IMHO finding a year's work in France is not so difficult for non Europeans as long as you are white and have some experience or a basic cert. Finding accommodation and getting a bank account may prove more difficult. For the first year you can get lost in the system, even for two years until it's time to pay taxes, then you leave. . . |
What do you mean by "lost in the system," VanGogh? Were they able to obtain a residence permit, or were they just trying to stay under the radar during their year or two in France?
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Van Gogh
Joined: 12 Oct 2008 Posts: 71
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 3:19 am Post subject: Finding work |
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AngloINFO Lyon offend has job offers, and there's a recording studio advertising for English speakers too. Check it out on the AngloInfo site. |
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spiral78
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:14 am Post subject: |
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Yes, in the dodgy overall spirit of encouraging people to work illegally, don't answer the question clearly.
They didn't get residence permits, guaranteed. |
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