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Justice Scalia Dies at Age 79
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, new lows on a daily basis. Almost hourly, to be honest. And I am nowhere near the States, and it's STILL inescapable!

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/02/16/politics/antonin-scalia-autopsy-death-conspiracy-theories/index.html

The guy was 79 and had health issues. But of course the Dems had to resort to some nefarious means to gain control of the supreme court....
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gregory999



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How come Justice Scalia was declared dead by "natural causes" by phone without checking his body?
And no autopsy was carried out to confirm the cause of his death?

I find it strange?
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wangdaning



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weird, on page two and very little to defend the person, or feel like it was a loss. Quite a bit to defame a dead person though, right on, #scalialifematters and all that. Crazy that he proposed to a student a "Law and Women" course would be nonsense, I thought law viewed us all equally, so what would a "Law and Male" (cause man would mean humans in general) mean. Law is law, male or female, why take a bs course, so crazy to say such a thing.

Weird things surrounding his death have been ignored, as usual, by the media. He will be swept under the rug and defamed, and do people have a right to doubt why? Spiral, is it really unquestionable to ask questions? Oh, ask the questions, but some jerk will call you an idiot and the media will, too. How clever, deceptive, and stupid this strategy is it's unimaginable. Funny how in China they blame wumao posters for spreading propaganda, why pay wumao when it is free.
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RedLightning



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnslat wrote:
As a side-benefit, when (not if) a nomination is made (probably of a minority group jurist or a woman or both) and the Republicans in Congress block it, well, that's likely not going to sit well with all the voters of whatever group the jurist if part of.

Regards,
John


The issue is entirely political. Those who would suggest otherwise
(racism, sexism, etc.) are by and large of a leftist disposition and would more than likely vote Democrat in any case.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course it's "political" - what I won't be around to see (but maybe you will) is the reaction when this happens:

"According to the U.S. Census Bureau, white people have another 30 years to enjoy being America's majority race. But come 2045, the white population will make up less than 50 percent of the American population for the first time ever."

How will the "white population" react to being a minority?

http://www.ifyouonlynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/wonka-minorities.png

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John
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adventious



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear John,

You're not wrong, but...
The Likely Persistence of a White Majority
How Census Bureau statistics have misled thinking about the American future.


Richard Alba
American Prospect

Alba. What allegory, huh? Not a majority, but a plurality.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, but the problem with the 'second reason" is that for some/many, the boundaries are never "blurred."

". . . it ignores the potential for blurring the boundary between mainstream and minority."

"Mixed race" (which in my opinion, is a silly term) individuals, at least those whose appearance shows the mixture) get treated as minorities, anyway.

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John
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gregory999



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

adventious wrote:
Alba. What allegory, huh? Not a majority, but a plurality.


Was not the E pluribus unum ("One out of many" or "One from many") one of the nation's mottos at the time of the seal's creation until 1956? .
then the United States Congress passed an act (H. J. Resolution 396), adopting "In God we trust" as the official motto.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_pluribus_unum
It seems the concept of melting pot has lost it's meaning! Laughing

The question is:
Is there one single America, or a Black America, a White America, a Chinese America, a Latino America?

Obama said there's not a liberal America and a conservative America -- there's the United States of America.
How true is this? Or is it only an IDEA that America is a single America?
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adventious



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gregory999 wrote:
It seems the concept of melting pot has lost it's meaning! Laughing
So has punctuation.
Writing can be beautiful because of the words an author chooses to use: but it can also be beautiful because of the choice of punctuation.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a subjective idea in many minds; in some, the US is still "a melting pot," in others, it's made up of separate, distinct "enclaves."

But the objective fact is this: "A second reason to be skeptical about the excited talk about the end of a white majority is that it ignores the potential for blurring the boundary between mainstream and minority. The United States has previously seen excluded minorities such as the Irish, Italians, and Jews assimilate into the mainstream. Although the channels of assimilation are narrower today because of heightened inequality, many recent immigrant families seem to be on the same path as their predecessors. The likely result will be to enlarge the mainstream and alter the circumstances under which individuals are seen as belonging to marginalized minorities."

Boundaries ARE blurring, but where the American Prospect missed the mark, I believe, is in thinking that this " . . . " suggest(s) that longstanding processes of assimilation could produce a white-dominated mainstream at the national level and in many regions for the foreseeable future.

Most Hispanics, for example, I'm pretty sure, think of themselves (in the "White" / Non-White dichotomy) as "White."

However, many "Whites" (in my experience) don't share that view.

Those "Whites" would not see a "mainstream" that includes large numbers of Hispanics as a "white dominated mainstream."

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John
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WASHINGTON — President Obama on Wednesday nominated Merrick B. Garland as the nation’s 113th Supreme Court justice, choosing a centrist appeals court judge for the lifetime appointment and daring Republican senators to refuse consideration of a jurist who is highly regarded throughout Washington.

Mr. Obama introduced Judge Garland to an audience of his family members, activists, and White House staff in the Rose Garden Wednesday morning, describing him as exceptionally qualified to serve on the Supreme Court in the seat vacated by the death of Justice Antonin Scalia, who died in February.


Mr. Obama demanded a fair hearing for Judge Garland and said that refusing to even consider his nomination would provoke “an endless cycle of more tit for tat” that would undermine the democratic process for years to come

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/17/us/politics/obama-supreme-court-nominee.html?_r=0

It seems Obama has chosen a centrist, and the political ball is in the senate court, we will see how this will play out?
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