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Adult education: an alternative to teaching k-12

 
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 7:21 am    Post subject: Adult education: an alternative to teaching k-12 Reply with quote
Thinking about an alternative to teaching k-12?

For those of you contemplating a return to the US and an iffy job market, don't ignore adult education. Compared to getting into k-12, it's worth it to look into teaching adults in not just ESL but also in basic skills and subject areas as an Adult Basic Education (ABE) and/or General Educational Development (GED) teacher. See this overview on Adult Basic & Secondary Education & Literacy Teachers & Instructors in addition to the Bureau of Labor Statistics' summary on ABE/GED job prospects. Also check your target state's department of education for the requirements and process leading to a ABE/GED teaching credentials.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
And most of it ends up PART-TIME employment as one employer described to me with "no benefits, no insurance benefits, no holiday pay, no sick pay, no prep time and no possibility of full-time employment."

And that was the document we had to sign for employment.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
sammysez wrote:
And most of it ends up PART-TIME employment as one employer described to me with "no benefits, no insurance benefits, no holiday pay, no sick pay, no prep time and no possibility of full-time employment."

And that was the document we had to sign for employment.

That was just one employer and likely not for an ABE-certified position. BTW, there are non-teaching jobs in which contractors sign an acknowledgement or understanding about the specific work conditions.

My point is that this is another option for repatriated teachers who aren't keen on teaching k12. Ditto for those who don't want to be added to a pool of teachers waiting for university IEP or community ESL enrolment numbers to increase.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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That was just one employer and likely not for an ABE-certified position.

I taught in one of the biggest community college systems in the US, directly in their ABE department, and it certainly was true for me. No benefits, no pay for prep, no holidays, nothing. Contract to contract only, no security whatsoever. Everything would depend on enrollment, and then on the local budget crisis of the month. Most people they hired were retired from the local school district with nice pensions, or bored housewives who just wanted something to do besides spending Husband's money.

It was a suck job of all time. The only good thing about it was the students. You'd be damn nuts to intentionally pursue a job like that. It's not much of an option. It's no way to live (look forward to the 'breaks' when you are expected to somehow survive for 6 weeks with 0 pay. Enjoy working seasonal retail? You'd better!).

The one and only place I've ever heard of which is decent for ABE is New York, via the CUNY system. Even then, you have to deal with housing costs. With a spouse you might make it work all right. Other than that, do NOT pursue ABE unless you have a bunch of money stocked up and just want to fill your days.
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