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Susya
Joined: 09 May 2016 Posts: 6
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 4:49 pm Post subject: Simply English Moscow - any experiences? |
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New poster here, be gentle please!
I am looking for a TEFL job in Moscow for September 2016, and have an interview coming up with Simply English Moscow. Has anyone worked for them who can give me some information on what it's actually like?
This site makes them, or at least their branch office, look like hell on earth:
http://simplyenglishscam.com/ |
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maruss
Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Posts: 1145 Location: Cyprus
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 3:27 pm Post subject: A strange question? |
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Surely one look at that site is enough to tell you to run fast as far away as possible from these people?
I believe every word of what he says and its' clearly documented! |
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spiral78
Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with maruss. This seems quite solid, it's very recent, and it is highly unlikely you will get any/many responses here that are more credible about this specific school.
I would look elsewhere. |
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Partizan
Joined: 11 Jan 2013 Posts: 61
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 10:14 am Post subject: Re: Simply English Moscow - any experiences? |
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Susya wrote: |
New poster here, be gentle please!
I am looking for a TEFL job in Moscow for September 2016, and have an interview coming up with Simply English Moscow. Has anyone worked for them who can give me some information on what it's actually like?
This site makes them, or at least their branch office, look like hell on earth:
http://simplyenglishscam.com/ |
Jesus H! Just how dumb and naive are Americans. They seem to lose any semblance of common sense and cop on, once they leave their country. Thankfully Travis, the lawyer bloke from DC somehow rediscovered his sanity and managed to eject himself from a very bad situation using his skills.
A couple of questions I want to ask however:
1) What is a lawyer from DC doing teaching English in Russia? Its one of the worst jobs that is out there at the minute given the state of the Rouble and economy. A guy like him should be cleaning up as a lawyer back Stateside. What is he running from or is it just to take a year out traveling? Unfortunately the ESL scene seems to attract more than its fair share of misfits, hobos and people with more psychological problems than one could shake a stick at and quite a few end up in Russia and the FSU. I have had the misfortune of coming across them and quite frankly, I do end up feeling sorry for them.
2) Why did the guy ditch his previous job without doing any proper background checks or research on Simply English? He had heard beforehand that previous teachers had left in rather shady circumstances. FFS, the incident on 8th January should have been the final red flag (on top of many previous already) yet Travis ignored these and pressed on. If he'd had his head screwed on at that point in time, he would have avoided all the shenanigans. SE sounded like a amateur, Fawlty Towers set up from the get go.
To sum up, I would advise any up and coming ESL teacher to avoid Russia and FSU and instead hit up Asia and ME. The ship has long sailed on Russia/FSU. Oh yeah! Do some research before you go. |
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Susya
Joined: 09 May 2016 Posts: 6
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 12:19 pm Post subject: Not actually stupid here |
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It is 100% clear to me that I do not want to be within a mile of Simply English Kolomna or any of the people involved with that mess, including Travis. If I were into soap opera, I'd also want to know why a DC lawyer is trying to teach TEFL in Kolomna and why he ignored all the red flags.
What is not clear to me is whether the Moscow Simply English folks are equally nuts, which is why I am looking around for someone who has actually worked for them. Unlike Travis, I am not skipping the research part. Nor am I going to just bop off to Moscow without all the paperwork in order. I don't set foot on a plane until I have a work visa and a contract in Russian, among other things. And since my Russian language skills are only moderate, it will be checked over by a native as well.
And I am not looking only at Simply English.
I should possibly start a new topic looking for general advice, but please know that I did not just fall off the turnip truck with regard to Russia. I've spent several months there over the last few years teaching under the table in a field completely unrelated to English or TEFL. I have held four Russian tourist visas, the most recent of which expires soon, and I did the paperwork and consulate visits myself, so I know how the process goes. I am already familiar with Moscow and have spent a month or so there living with a Russian family.
What I do not have is TEFL certification, which limits where I can work.
(Please skip the "how do you know you can teach English?" commentary. I have a Master's in Education with specialization in English, and eighteen years of teaching experience in a different field. I know how to prepare lessons and teach. And yes, I know that TEFL cert would help, but I don't have a good option other than an online course, which does not seem to be well-respected/accepted. As noted above, not stupid!)
I know I could make more money elsewhere (if I could get around the TEFL-less issue), but my interest is specifically in Russia, thanks.
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Susya
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nomad soul
Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 1:59 pm Post subject: Re: Oh, and about Travis |
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Geez. What is there to judge? What difference does it make what he does for a living? Moreover, why turn your focus on him; he has nothing to with what company you choose to work for. Move on if you're no longer interested in this employer. |
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spiral78
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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I think you'd be better off relying on the contacts you presumably have in Moscow to help you vet schools there.
This board's simply not active enough for it to be likely that someone here will have direct knowledge of specific schools. I can speak only for one Moscow school myself, and it does not hire non-certified teachers. |
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maruss
Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Posts: 1145 Location: Cyprus
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 4:22 pm Post subject: Some useful advice there... |
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Unless you can land a job with an International School that pays very well and has other perks,then I wouldn't even consider going to Russia now-as you have been there recently, you surely know the situation on the ground better than most of us?
Without a specialised English teaching quaification such as Celta or Tesol,which is a four week intensive course,you will most probably have trouble finding any decent work in this field but if you are really determined and have around $1500 to spare,firms such as BKC in Moscow run them and they are officially recognised, so your certificate will be bona-fide,although I wouldn't want to work for them afterwards!But be warned, its a very intensive course and you have to be determined and dedicated to get through it! |
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rottenflesh
Joined: 22 Apr 2010 Posts: 32
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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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I worked here for a full contract term (9 months). Feel free to message or post any questions you may have. |
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