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Poliglotus Opole offer

 
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dragonpiwo



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:58 am    Post subject: Poliglotus Opole offer Reply with quote

Seen the ad on the net and I'm telling you 2,500 PLN is NOT a living wage.
Apply at your peril.
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wojbrian



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I lived in Opole. It is not an expensive city but that is no where near enough.
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Master Shake



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Poliglotus Opole offer Reply with quote

dragonpiwo wrote:
Seen the ad on the net and I'm telling you 2,500 PLN is NOT a living wage.
Apply at your peril.
What if they threw in free housing, wojbrian? Doable then?
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dragonpiwo



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:31 am    Post subject: erm Reply with quote

That's 80 Zloty a day ie $21 if he works a full month. Could you live on that in America, which is cheaper for everything except basic food?

Can't believe you're even trying to defend it Shake. Appalling is the adjective I'd use.
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wojbrian



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That would be doable if the flat was included.
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Master Shake



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wasn't defending anything, just asking if it was doable. Wojbrian thinks it is, if housing is covered. I don't get what's so appalling about the offer. Are you a communist who thinks salaries should be controlled by the State? The school is offering that much because they think there's someone out there who's willing to work for that. This is what a free economy is based on.

None of us on this forum are going to take this job because we've got experience and contacts that get us better paying work.

However, for someone just starting out in Poland who doesn't have that, a job like this could be a way to get their foot in the door - IF housing is provided. Otherwise, you're probably not going to make ends meet on 2.5k/mo..
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scottie1113



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

True dat to everything Shake said
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wojbrian



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My flat was 1000pln
Phone 50-100
Food 300-500
Internet 50-75
Transport 60
That adds up to about 1600pln for just the basics.

I think if the flat was included it would be acceptable on the lower end.

If they don't pay for holidays or vacation time it would be very difficult.

I only made 3-3500pln the first time I was in Poland and I didn't have any problems.
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Rusty77



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure, Wojbrian, you can probably LIVE on 2,500 a month in Opole, but aspiring to just get by likely won't result in much happiness for the poster. What about saving up some funds while working, like most people aim to do? Travel on holiday weekends? Compensation for those 3 full months of little or no work in the summer without pay? Twelve years ago, I worked in Poland for about 2,500 PLN a month. Sure, I survived, but it was a pretty spartan lifestyle and I had saved nothing by the end of that year. If were the poster, I would do this only in the event that I desperately needed teaching experience to pad a resume.
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dragonpiwo



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 2:08 am    Post subject: haaa Reply with quote

Food 3-500 , you're having a laugh. If I go to a bog standard testaurant with my wife, it's 200. More if I order a bottle of wine, which is 100 minimum. A lot more if I go to a 'good' restaurant.

This is not a 'living' wage.Polish employers just take the piss.
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sparks



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure about spending 200 for "bog standard" but he's right in that 300-500 a MONTH for food is way low. Yes, even outside of Warsaw.
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wojbrian



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, maybe that was a bit low on the food budget.

I don't drink and did not take into account how much people can drink.

I just live a simple life.
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sparks



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your numbers allow for about one or two (but only some days) 10 zl. Kebab(s) a day. No drankin' in that budget Smile
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wojbrian



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like I said, I don't drink. Smile

If I still did I would need x2 the cheddar! Smile

I still think if a flat was included it would be doable.

You can always pick up some privates to supplement the income.
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Master Shake



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whoever said drinking in Poland was expensive? Yea, I'm sure dragonpiwo pays 20zl for a bog standard beer. I think he might have been confusing Poland for Switzerland for the last 10 years or so.

But the rest of us have realized that 1) Pre-drinking at home saves you a small fortune. 2) Going out in Poland is pretty reasonable really. You have a couple of beers at your inexpensive local, then move on to a club, then finish off the night with a few classy beers in the park. I had many a night out which were under 50zl, and that includes buying a few rounds for friends.

Anyway, you'll still be doing better financially than most of the Polish students you'll be drinking with, even on that crummy salary. Cool
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