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Regret not getting PGCE/K-12 sooner?
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peripatetic_soul



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 8:28 pm    Post subject: Regret Not getting Reply with quote

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I wonder how long term expat American certified teachers maintain their licensure when the terms of licensure require that the teacher attend reqular classes to keep their knowledge and skills up-to-date.


It is relatively easy to obtain relicensure while overseas, as outlined on your DOE's list of acceptable categories. My state requires 180 credit hours over a 5-year period.

Categories may include:1) teaching one semester at an institution yields 90 points; 2) attendance at workshops and PDs (including those attended while teaching overseas), 3) presentations, 4) online or distance learning, webinars, etc., 5) submission of a scholarly article to a journal, 6) mentoring or training other teacher candidates, and 7) regular classes. Allowable points per category and weight of each activity are clearly explained by your DOE.

The HOD at your overseas institution can sign a letter attesting to those earned credits. I pursued recertification of state teaching license while still teaching in UAE with no problems. That's why I recommend maintaining a list of the above credentials while overseas . . . just in case (even though I haven't returned to p.s.). It's well advised to be prepared with a Plan B . . . and sometimes a Plan C. Best wishes.
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mitsui



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends on the state. Oregon really pushes professional development.

I am certified in Arizona and have to get an extension for my provisional certification.
I have taken two tests and took an online class. By 2020 it will expire unless I have two years of full-time teaching. Currently I work part-time at two universities.
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JoThomas



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Ontario, Canada, you pay a yearly fee which can be done online, and we don't have to complete any additional qualifications. Although, AQ courses do look good on the resume.

kev20 wrote:


Is having done TEFL a benefit at home in getting a teaching job and is it of any benefit in the western classroom?


The CELTA certificate is recognized in Canada if you want to teach TEFL to adults in a classroom setting. There are many immigrants that go to private language schools where a CELTA is universally recognized.

A two year TEFL course from a Canadian college is also highly recognized if you want to work in the TEFL field teaching immigrants.

If you want to teach in public schools, then you need a B.Ed. I think your TEFL experience could definitely benefit you if you go to Teacher's College and in the eight week practicum as you will have some classroom experience. If you want to teach ESL in the public system you will have to have three AQ courses in ESL to become a specialist in that field.
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peripatetic_soul



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:48 pm    Post subject: regret not getting PC sooner Reply with quote

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It depends on the state. Oregon really pushes professional development.


Yes, as I indicated, the guidelines differ by state and I'm referring to teachers who have been certified and seeking recert.
As I recall, a major portion of allowable points were in the PD category (which happened to be the easiest to accumulate since we attended numerous PDs at university overseas). The maximum allowed for teaching at another (tertiary) institution was one semester but that is worth 90 of the 180 points. Again, this is based on one state's requirements.

BTW, we must remit a fee to the DOE when we submit our credentials for recertification. Nothing is free! ha

Regards, PS
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roywebcafe



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am 53 with a CELTA a and first degree. Taught EFL between 2003 and 2014, I did a pgce in ESOL back in 2006 but didn't get it due to falling out with course leader. I am now thinking of going back into TEFL because of the economic climate and situation. Is it worth me doing an extra course before? Have seen some good level entry offers in China. I would recommend to anybody get your pgce before going into TEFL as it will be harder to return to UK after working abroad , well it was for me. Those who haven't and have any motivation left should try if you want to work at international schools.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread deserves to be bumped.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I escaped from secondary school teaching to work in Teaching English in Exotic Locales (TEEL). That is when I at last, reluctantly, grew up.

Now retired I am back in my native Caledonia reflecting on a life spent doing not very much - but in parts of the world that many people never see.
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