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michi gnome
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 Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 3:17 pm Post subject: In-person TEFL cert a new requirement in Shanghai? |
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I received an offer from an international school in Shanghai. My TEFL certificate is from an online program, and I just learned I need to have an in-person TEFL. Is it just int'l schools in Shanghai that are requiring this now?
Has anyone else came across this situation?
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Foo_Fighters_Dave
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In person TEFL programs such as the CELTA are a lot better then these online ones because you actually teach in a classroom. I wish these online TEFL degrees would be abolished because they are worthless.
If it is a true International School, they should only recognize in person TEFL degrees. |
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou
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I've never been asked for a TEFL certificate. Is it because of my 15 years of teaching experience and a BA, MA, and MFA?
Wait. Once I was asked for a TEFL cert. It was for a job through Gold Star. They were happy to sell me a course. |
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fpshangzhou
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The TEFL requirement is nonsense here in this country. Matter of fact, people who do any TEFL certification within this country is suspect when trying to use this cert for another country. Same goes for work experience in China. I think it's because there is no set standards for the industry here.
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Non Sequitur
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If it is a true International School, they should only recognize in person TEFL degrees.
If it is a true international school they will want a helluva lot more than a TEFL degree!
Many international students are English-speaking expats and are enrolled in International Baccalaureate studies. |
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michi gnome
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Thanks for your replies.
I do have a few years teaching experience in Korea and China. I would agree that with little or no experience, an in-person TEFL is a good idea. With teaching experience however, an online one should be sufficient. Experience > TEFL cert
As it turns out the int'l school waives the in-person requirement with 2 years experience. |
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spiral78
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| they should only recognize in person TEFL degrees. |
A cert is not a degree (you can't reasonably compare 30 days or less to the years it takes to earn a degree).
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| With teaching experience however, an online one should be sufficient. Experience > TEFL cert |
Actually, in more competitive job markets, this isn't true. Having done the job for a couple of years, especially at an entry/lower level and in an uncompetitive job market, is not really any guarantee that you've done it well. |
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Non Sequitur
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s it turns out the int'l school waives the in-person requirement with 2 years experience.
Doubt that it is an 'International' in the sense that is being discussed on another thread. |
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spiral78
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| Likely to be a private for-profit. |
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Non Sequitur
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| Likely to be a private for-profit. |
Might be worth updating the thread 'Job Offer Checklist'. A lot of 'China Job Related' is assisting new teachers avoid the myriad scams and misleading job ads.
I'll put something up and see how close I get to what others think.
Top of the hierarchy would be a school that teaches IB, has a number of expat students and pays 20K pm before tax. |
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