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Antidote to Saudi
Nothing, it's perfect
6%
 6%  [ 1 ]
Drink until my liver screams for mercy
6%
 6%  [ 1 ]
Spend time with the family
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Travel to pastures nicer, which is everywhere
18%
 18%  [ 3 ]
Dream of not being in Saudi
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Dream of the financial goal I tolerate KSA for
25%
 25%  [ 4 ]
Dream of a different goal I tolerate KSA for
25%
 25%  [ 4 ]
Work in a nice place - charity or short-term
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Where are my cookies?
6%
 6%  [ 1 ]
I like clicking polls
12%
 12%  [ 2 ]
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In the heat of the moment



Joined: 22 May 2015
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Location: SAUDI ARABIA

PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:51 am    Post subject: Antidote to Saudi Reply with quote

Not sure if this should go here, so apologies in advance.

I was wondering what people have / had as an antidote to working in the Big Sandpit? At first I was thinking of where to go once I leave - which could be in a couple of years or longer - but then I got to thinking shorter term; how about what do people do, in their holidays, that they thought rid themselves of the surplus of sand, heat, pervasive ineptitude, ruinous lethargy, inadequate mono-culture, ubiquitous malls and fast food, calls to prayer (although I quite like them, from a distance), deficient driving, disrespect, unpleasant architecture, decreasing real (WRT inflation) salaries, inhospitable laws, shameful inequality, and all round decrepitude?

Or how about we drill down even further? What do you do at the weekend or even of an evening?

I've added a poll using some options from my limited imagination, but further ideas are welcome.
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niti team leader



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:35 am    Post subject: antidote Reply with quote

Most engaging
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scot47



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did not focus on the negatives. Reflect and you will see there are positives to being there. If you think it is horrid then maybe you should not be there.
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In the heat of the moment



Joined: 22 May 2015
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Location: SAUDI ARABIA

PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
I did not focus on the negatives. Reflect and you will see there are positives to being there. If you think it is horrid then maybe you should not be there.


Thanks Scot, I do see some positives here (otherwise I wouldn't have come back). What I'm looking for are some more positives when leaving, believe it or not. I've backpacked around a continent, drank my fill, spent time with (and money on) family... all of those things I listed as ways to de-Saudiise, and give myself rewards for the previous academic year. I can do them again, just won'drin' if others have different goals.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a balance in your daily life. The ones in Saudi who seemed unstable were the ones who worked in KSA so they could go and do things in Thailand. Not the way I would choose. Ah well I too was once young and foolish !
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Xie Lin



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
Get a balance in your daily life. The ones in Saudi who seemed unstable were the ones who worked in KSA so they could go and do things in Thailand. Not the way I would choose. Ah well I too was once young and foolish !


Scot, I too was once young and foolish. And now I am old and foolish! Very Happy

(But not so foolish that I don't agree with you about getting a balance in your daily life.)

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In the heat of the moment



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
Get a balance in your daily life. The ones in Saudi who seemed unstable were the ones who worked in KSA so they could go and do things in Thailand. Not the way I would choose. Ah well I too was once young and foolish !


Thanks Scot, your advice is en pointe and really helpful.
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MixtecaMike



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While things were not exactly perfect, I didn't see anything seriously stressful there. Especially being given airfares for four and 60 + days off each summer.

However, Looking forward to seeing XXXXXX strung by the neck from a lamp post when the Arab spring arrived would have gotten my click in your poll.
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In the heat of the moment



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No one has clicked on "Spend time with the family", it seems the last thing people want to do.

I thought it was just me!
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scot47



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are not many EFLers from the Anglosphere with their families in KSA now.
That era has gone. It was good while it lasted.

As salaries and benefits have declined, more and more singletons are seen teaching English in KSA.


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Makkah



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not many families.......but still a few. From where I m sitting can count 6 with families here, all contractors, on very good packages. Though, bringing a family out here on 15k or even 20k a month is utter madness.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Education allowances, housing and ticketing, and health care are crucial.

But for some there is the lure of Mecca and Medina
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siologen



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:26 am    Post subject: re: true! Reply with quote

The only other M is Mammon?
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