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Non Sequitur · Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 4724 Location: China

tefl-ing
By the time you get a contract that you can get a visa with, the employer will have done a lot of work. So bailing out, whelching or whatever, is an issue.
There is the black list issue but I have no direct experience of that.
As to temp agencies in the west which no one has heard of, try these:

https://nz.drakeintl.com/
http://www.kellyservices.co.nz/Global/About-Us/Company_Overview/

There seem to be a couple of posters who as recently as last month were saying 'I'm new' and 'How do I get a job?' who have suddenly metamorphosed into arbiters of pay and conditions across the sector.

JB140767 · Joined: 09 Aug 2015 Posts: 135

[quote="buravirgil"]

buravirgil · Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:07 am Post subject:

JB140767 · Joined: 09 Aug 2015 Posts: 135

buravirgil · Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 4:23 am Post subject:

Given your sentence, citing that definition doesn't demonstrate a proficiency with its usage-- an 8th grade proficiency. You might try a search, such as "imply vs. infer" as it's commonly confused.

I stated that your posts focus on pay to an exclusion of other variables. I haven't stated you've declared pay is more, or less important, (be all) than other considerations. The specific, contended issue of this thread is Xrmb in Y city. You addressed an amount, solely. No questions as to accomodation, vacation, or hours per week.

And, to be fair to you, what NonSequitor and myself recognized is a tendency by many, and your uncomplicated dismissal was snared. I think the consensus of the thread is the OP's suspicions of a contractor placing teachers in public schools for a figure only familiar to university teachers is warranted. And your condemnation of it has that basis.

The only way such a position has value is if the hours are as few as a university position, a decent accommodation is offered, and teachers already working report tutoring opportunities are abundant.

JB140767 · Joined: 09 Aug 2015 Posts: 135

frankieboy · Joined: 01 Apr 2014 Posts: 52

@Tefling -

I suppose you have already made up your mind, but if not, AVOID Echo English. They are the worst; glorified human traffickers. I quit my job early, after about 7 weeks, while they still had my passport, and they kidnapped my passport and held me hostage, forced me to pay rent, and extorted money from me. Human GARBAGE!

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=115513&highlight=echo

Frank

tellersquill · Joined: 08 Apr 2016 Posts: 94

hooplehead · Joined: 01 Feb 2012 Posts: 8

I can't believe this thread. A barely literate Chinese food delivery guy in the countryside makes about 5000.

enterthedragon · Joined: 11 Nov 2017 Posts: 45

I work at an intl sch and 5000 is what the chinese teachers get. Some get a little more like 8000 if they have some responsibility. I am on 5 x this salary however after tax. So in my opinion this is a lowball salary which only chinese locals could live on. About getting privates as someone said, they are almost impossible to get as no one knows you, where you live, people in china generally can not speak any english so how can you ask people for privates when they dont understand etc. I would say 15k plus free accommodation should be the minimum anyone teaching English in china should be getting. Look at the cost of getting a visa in the first place plus the flight to china. It's very expensive to come here. SO dont take it is my opinion on the ground.

Non Sequitur · Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 4724 Location: China

Most SAFEA packages include airfares.