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enterthedragon



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Makkah wrote:


If one does find themselves in KSA making well over 30,000SAR/month, count themselves lucky (it is what I do each month I get paid).

I'm here for the money and after I finish, so will my ESL days end too..


How come you get paid so much money for TEFL? 30k SAR is an enormous amount of money. Who pays this amount? I have never seen an advert this high before although I don't look at ads in Saudi really.
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Makkah



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

enterthedragon wrote:
Makkah wrote:


If one does find themselves in KSA making well over 30,000SAR/month, count themselves lucky (it is what I do each month I get paid).

I'm here for the money and after I finish, so will my ESL days end too..


How come you get paid so much money for TEFL? 30k SAR is an enormous amount of money. Who pays this amount? I have never seen an advert this high before although I don't look at ads in Saudi really.


Aramco as a contractor.
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sicklyman



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Makkah wrote:
(...each month I get paid).

are there some months you don't get paid?
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Makkah



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sicklyman wrote:
Makkah wrote:
(...each month I get paid).

are there some months you don't get paid?


Wow Littleman, surprised you are not in the loop about it.
Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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dragonpiwo



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:07 am    Post subject: erm Reply with quote

Except for Aramco, pretty much all the great oil and gas jobs have gone or are in the last throws of dying.

I'm in the UAE on an Aramco salary but I don't expect to be here much longer.

Outsourcing and the race to the bottom beckons.
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hash



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:18 am    Post subject: Re: erm Reply with quote

dragonpiwo wrote:
Except for Aramco, pretty much all the great oil and gas jobs have gone.......
Even Aramco is not immune. Old friend of mine - one of those that lived in Bahrain and commuted daily to KSA... was just let go.....after 20 years or so on the job as Aramco contractor. And it's not just English teachers that this is happening to. Cutbacks across the board, regardless of age, profession, expertise, you name it.....the money is just not there anymore.

(Meanwhile, back in the USA, GE has just announced "thousands" to be laid off worldwide....and Ford is taking its electric car manufacturing to.......Mexico (I didn't think they did that anymore)......Hold on to your undies.....it's going to be a bumpy ride.


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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:12 pm    Post subject: Re: erm Reply with quote

hash wrote:
and Ford is taking its electric car manufacturing to.......Mexico (I didn't think they did that anymore)

Not sure why you would think that. The new tax bill rewards those who move out of the US. Not to mention that Ford's US factory is switching to self-driving cars... and the electric car production is moving to an existing factory in Mexico that is cutting back the production of small cars that aren't selling because the gas is cheap again.

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Allizwell



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As others have said, if you are male, there are jobs right now at over 20K SAR including accommodation, and in most cases, transportation. If you are American, see Raytheon, Blueforce, and maybe some others. If you are British, see BAE. There are others, but I will leave that for you to discover. Best of luck.
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dragonpiwo



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:09 pm    Post subject: erm Reply with quote

My pal at BAe says it's absolutely dreadful. I know 3 people who have quit that motherload of a working day.
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enterthedragon



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Makkah"]
enterthedragon wrote:
Makkah wrote:




Aramco as a contractor.
WHat does that mean? How can you be a contractor in Saudi Arabia?
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hash



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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enterthedragon wrote:
WHat does that mean? How can you be a contractor in Saudi Arabia?

He means......he's a CONTRACTEE of a CONTRACTOR CONTRACTED to work at ARAMCO. In other words, he's not an ARAMCO employee (direct hire) even though he works at ARAMCO facilities and teaches (or otherwise) ARAMCO students/employees.

(I just asked my students to translate what I just wrote above into Arabic....not a one could do it.......not even close.)


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enterthedragon



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am surprised he gets 30k a month SAR then because contractors tend to want to keep all the profits themselves and pay contractees peanuts. If he is making 30k SAR a month as a contractor, his company must be making 50-60k a m onth then which is A LOT of SARs...no medical pun intended. Very Happy

ICEAT do not offer contractors 30k SAR a month for example yet they teach the RSAF Royal Saudi Air Force cadets. But then the RSAF isn't ARAMCO I guess. Shocked
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enterthedragon



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh I forgot, some European Centre somewhere I think maybe in Jubail is a contractor for ARAMCO and the guy who runs it is an MA Cantab (a singer basically like Aled Jones..."We're walking in the air....."

But he doesn't offer 30k SAR to contractors. I think 10k it was Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad
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sicklyman



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Makkah wrote:
sicklyman wrote:
Makkah wrote:
(...each month I get paid).

are there some months you don't get paid?


Wow Littleman, surprised you are not in the loop about it.
Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

nope... but then I get paid every month so not something that bothers me. Sorry to hear your contractor isn't apologising as they should...
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sicklyman



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

enterthedragon wrote:
I am surprised he gets 30k a month SAR

everyone gets 30K plus... it's standard, plus up to 10% pay rise each year.. at least until you hit the top of your pay grade.

But this is the total package apart from one interim flight (used to be two), so you're paying for your accommodation out of this.
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