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georginasmiley
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 Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:20 pm Post subject: Advice on quitting |
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Hi
Normally stick it out with bad jobs and finish my contract but my current job is just unbearable. If I hand my notice in my contract says I have to stay on for 3 months. I'd rather just wait for payday and do a runner, although because of the payment system I presume I could lose half a month's salary which they may be under no obligation to pay me. I don't know. If I do a runner I suppose they could screw me getting another job. Although I have a ton of experience and good references which might show that it was at least out of character. What should I do? If I stay on for the 3 months I'm sure the nastiness is only going to intensify because I quit. Like I said, only quit a job once in my life and that wasn't in Japan. Any advice would be great.
It's a kids eikaiwa job, rather not name names. |
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currentaffairs
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| If you have enough money to keep you going for a bit then I would quit now. However, if you haven't saved much then I would stick it out and get some interviews lined up in the next few weeks.. Best of luck. |
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georginasmiley
Joined: 27 Jun 2015
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks. Wouldn't it cause me trouble getting a new job? |
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mitsui
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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If you stay in Japan, quitting won't help.
Especially if you work in a similar job. |
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marley'sghost
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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| georginasmiley wrote: |
| Thanks. Wouldn't it cause me trouble getting a new job? |
There is no secret kid's eikaiwa network blacklist. I doubt very much that these people running the outfit you are working for are going to bother sending messages to their cabal of kiddie english eikaiwa collaborators and ban you. Just don't use them as a reference. You might have to candy coat the gap in your employment history, but I wouldn't worry.
Is it your first year of the contract? If so, they do have you for the 3 months. Sad but true. If you have renewed, and are in your 2nd year or afterwards you only need to give 2 weeks. 3 months is just exploitative. It really does not leave you with many options other than pulling a runner. Is there no other way? Is there any chance they will let you out at the end of the month, if say they get your replacement by then? Is the situation so bad you can't trust or talk to each other?
You are lucky it's only half a month's salary. Many employers hold onto a full month's as insurance.
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georginasmiley
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| Thanks. I don’t know whether you could say the situation is bad in the grand scheme of things . They’re too strict and it pisses me off. Can’t do anything right. Too much work ontop of too many classes. |
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mitsui
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| Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:17 am Post subject: |
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Start looking for work and prepare for any interview. Be prepared to say why you are leaving this job. It is easy to not answer the question the way they want to hear it.
Japanese tend to fake interviews and have an idealized view of their situation.
You cannot even be slightly negative.
It is hard to fake it, though.
I know about extra duties not in the contract and a literally psycho boss. |
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Vince
Joined: 05 May 2003
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| What are the unbearable issues with this job? |
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kzjohn
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| Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:31 am Post subject: Re: Advice on quitting |
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| georginasmiley wrote: |
| ... If I hand my notice in my contract says I have to stay on for 3 months. ... |
How about you go to Hello Work and find out from them what the actual legal requirements are for quitting, instead of believing/accepting what is in your “contract”?
Those requirements will spell out what you need to do, and also the rules that your employer must follow. |
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GambateBingBangBOOM
Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:09 am Post subject: Re: Advice on quitting |
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| kzjohn wrote: |
| georginasmiley wrote: |
| ... If I hand my notice in my contract says I have to stay on for 3 months. ... |
How about you go to Hello Work and find out from them what the actual legal requirements are for quitting, instead of believing/accepting what is in your “contract”?
Those requirements will spell out what you need to do, and also the rules that your employer must follow. |
Last I checked (several years ago), if you are in your first contract, you need to do what it says in the contract (so three months in this case) if it's not your first contract with these people, then it's two weeks' notice (regardless of what is written in the contract). Otherwise they *could* go after you if they can show damages.
In either case, anyone who contacts them will be told that the OP bailed mid-contract. And if you bailed saying 'technically, I only have to give two weeks' notice' then you can expect them to be really unhappy about it. It may not be super easy to find a replacement in two weeks.
Check with Hello Work, do searches on labour lawyers home pages etc. |
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The Transformer
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This link gives some useful information, and confirms things said by previous posters: two weeks notice required from your second contract onwards, and companies cannot fine you for quitting during your contract, and must pay all outstanding wages even if you do quit.
http://www.nic-nagoya.or.jp/en/e/archives/348
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| However, if an employee resigns without giving appropriate notice as set out in their contract, it is possible for the company to claim damages against that employee in a civil court |
I spoke to the Labor Standards Bureau in Tokyo about this a few years ago and they gave the opinion that, if you quit without giving the required notice, it would be unlikely (though not out of the question) for a Japanese employer to sue you for damages, particularly a school, as they'll probably have other teachers who can cover any lessons you'd been scheduled to teach. And even if the school had to cancel lessons and lost money because of your sudden resignation, it probably wouldn't be significant enough damage for them to take you to court over. |
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