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scot47
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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They treated me well at KFUPM - especially when I needed open heart surgery at Al-Sa'ad Hospital in Dhahran in 2004. I survived. They were nice to me. |
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sicklyman
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:05 am Post subject: |
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in fact you lasted longer than the hospital you recovered in... |
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eslteacher2014
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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scot47 wrote: |
They treated me well at KFUPM - especially when I needed open heart surgery at Al-Sa'ad Hospital in Dhahran in 2004. I survived. They were nice to me. |
Hi Scot
A lot of expats I know here in Ksa usually do their serious medical procedures outside. How was the experience of doing a major operation in Saudi? |
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sicklyman
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scot47
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:09 am Post subject: |
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In 2003/4 I had some surprises. I was told in Dhahran that I had Coronary Heart Disease and that i needed a bypass. I got a second opinion in Bulgaria, where I lived at the time. That was the first surprise and I really did not want to believe that I needed heart surgery.
The second surprise was when I was told that I could have the operation in Dhahran.. A very competent team of South Africans of different ethnicities carried it out. I remember particularly the two nubile Zulu nurses who looked after me in intensive care. And the English South African surgeon who led the team.
My operation was a success. Bill Clinton had one at the same time. He had to go back and have his redone. I told my students at KFUPM that this proved that Saudi hospitals were better than those in the USA. My joke gained me several brownie points with my cynical students.
My treatment and hospital stay was covered by Health Insurance which was voluntary. A group of us at KFUPM agreed to pay a few hundred a month for good health cover through a broker. In subsequent years the boiker had to give up because not enough teachers at KFUPM were prepared to pay for proper health insurance. To me this was a reflection on the negative attitude of the skinflints and 500-clubbers who were my colleagues in that place.
For those without health insurance treatment was available at the University Teaching Hospital. I visited people there and would not opt for any treatment there. Certainly not for open-heart surgery. To get treatment in the University Teaching Hospital it was, in my day, necessary to arrange intervention from the Dean or Rector at very high level. Even with that, treatment for dependants was routinely declined.
I am sorry that al-Sa'ad Hospital is now closed. It did seem too good to last. The story from my past is also a reminder to me and others of the perils of making MONEY the most important thing in your life. Too mean to get medical cover ? Be prepared to pay the ultimate price,
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dragonpiwo
Joined: 04 Mar 2013 Posts: 1650 Location: Berlin
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:11 pm Post subject: erm |
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It's not the VAT I worry about. In the GCC as a whole it's the tax they put on things expats like doing. Paid 11 quid for a Guiness the other day, Skype now blocked in the UAE. Expats foodstuffs extortionate. Silly rental prices even when buildings are half empty. Cigarettes doubled in price this year and soft drinks went up 50%.In the UAE this 5% VAT got added at every level of the supply chain it seems. |
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nomad soul
Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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dragonpiwo wrote: |
In the GCC as a whole it's the tax they put on things expats like doing. Paid 11 quid for a Guiness the other day, Skype now blocked in the UAE. Expats foodstuffs extortionate. Silly rental prices even when buildings are half empty. Cigarettes doubled in price this year and soft drinks went up 50%.In the UAE... |
The UAE? Beer prices generally aren't a concern to expats in Saudi Arabia.
scot47 wrote: |
My treatment and hospital stay was covered bu Health Insurance which was voluntary. A group of us at KFUPM agreed to pay a few hundred a month for good health cover through a broker. In subsequent years the boiker had to give up because not enough teachers at KFUPM were prepared to pay for proper health insurance. To me this was a reflection on the negative attitude of the skinflints and 500-clubbers who were my colleagues in that place. |
Buying additional health insurance coverage above what KFUPM (or any other employer) offers is good advice, especially if one's health isn't stellar. |
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scot47
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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Nomad, you persuade the misers that are pervasive in the region. |
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siologen
Joined: 25 Oct 2016 Posts: 336
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:16 am Post subject: re: uae sounding like a crap shoot! |
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Paid 11 quid for a Guiness the other day, Skype now blocked in the UAE. Expats foodstuffs extortionate. Silly rental prices even when buildings are half empty. Cigarettes doubled in price this year and soft drinks went up 50%.In the UAE this 5% VAT got added at every level of the supply chain it seems. |
Well that sounds crap, sorry to hear that, but I wager you must have a lucrative position that outweighs the bad points? Seems like even Saudi may be better for savings for me, as I can manage without overpriced drinks for a 6 month stint or so. Thanks for filling us all in! Add in a bit of this:
https://www.thenational.ae/uae/government/uae-s-new-security-checks-for-expats-will-ensure-a-safer-emirates-fnc-member-says-1.694142
And to use american english, it's a crap shoot baby!!! Perhaps if it was not for the new check rules from ones homeland, and the VAT introduction, the UAE would still be a good place for most ESL teachers. |
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scot47
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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I always thought KSA was better than the Emirates. |
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veiledsentiments
Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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scot47 wrote: |
I always thought KSA was better than the Emirates. |
Only for males...
Definitely NOT for females.
VS |
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