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mitsui



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard about a Chinese-Canadian who teaches in Japan and who got rejected. I think she was certified in English in Canada, was in her 40s but got rejected and did not get an interview. She thought that it was because of her ethnic backround.
Seems surprising to me. I assume that applicants have to have something extra, like the ability to teach something besides English.
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isitts



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mitsui wrote:
Had the interview. Never got the CNCC from Japan as the police asked for a letter from the Hong Kong Board of Ed., which they refused to write.
Otherwise it takes up to 4 months from the FBI.

For future reference, you can get the FBI check within a few weeks if you use Accurate Biometrics (or other similar channelers).
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mitsui



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds good. How does that work?
The FBI has my fingerprints since I am certified in two states.
Don't know why I was told it can take up to 4 months.
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isitts



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mitsui wrote:
Sounds good. How does that work?
The FBI has my fingerprints since I am certified in two states.
Don't know why I was told it can take up to 4 months.


The short version:
1. Get your fingerprints taken (pm'ed you details)
2. Mail the prints to a channeler (I recommend Accurate Biometrics)
3. Someone you know back in the US receives the rap sheet from the FBI and sends it to the DOS for the apostille (forms and payment required)
4. Same person back in the US receives the background check with apostille and mails it to you.

Pretty sure that can be done in a month (…less, if you use Accurate Biometrics to get the apostille, too). Anyway, hope it can be of some help.

My post was over 300 words so pm'ed you the full version.
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jknops2



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To follow up, I just did this for a China visa.


You need to get official fingerprints. In the US, any police station can do this $5 charge. I think any US embassy can do this to, but check first.
Then you need to send it to the US state department to get authenticated, see https://www.fbi.gov/services/cjis/identity-history-summary-checks
$8 charge. You can mail it to there from anywhere, include a self addressed envelop and get it mailes back. Then for Hong Kong, I think you are done, but check. For China, you need to get it next authenticated by the US China Embassy. Where you either need to go in person or use an agency.


Cheers, Jean.
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yurii



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mitsui wrote:
I heard about a Chinese-Canadian who teaches in Japan and who got rejected. I think she was certified in English in Canada...


You think?

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was in her 40s but got rejected and did not get an interview. She thought that it was because of her ethnic backround.


I imagine language centres probably favour Caucasians (most probably due to the parents!). However, it's hard to pass any kind of judgement on someone we know next to nothing about and whether she was certified or not (your I think comment).

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Seems surprising to me. I assume that applicants have to have something extra, like the ability to teach something besides English.


My Canadian friend on the programme doesn't offer anything else but English.
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isitts



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jknops2 wrote:
You need to get official fingerprints. In the US, any police station can do this $5 charge.

He’s not in the US, he’s in Japan.
jknops2 wrote:
I think any US embassy can do this to, but check first.

From what I read, they don’t. At least not in Japan. Do they in China, though? That would be good to know for future reference (though I'm sure it's always subject to change).
jknops2 wrote:
Then you need to send it to the US state department to get authenticated…

Get what authenticated? You skipped the whole part about getting the FBI check. Razz
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mitsui



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The US embassy is useless, you have to do it yourself - hence the problem.
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isitts



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mitsui wrote:
The US embassy is useless, you have to do it yourself - hence the problem.

Well, as I mentioned in the pm, you can use these guys to take the fingerprints:

https://www.japanpi.com/legal-investigations/obtain-public-records/finger-prints-fbi/

Pricey, but cheaper than flying to Guam.

Everybody has to do it themselves. It's just more difficult if you're in a country where the police stations won't sign your fingerprint card after taking your prints (*cough* *cough* Japan). But the service I listed above will.
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nimadecaomei



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Embassy in China will not do it. There is a list of places in China that can do accepted fingerprints. They get taken and sealed then you send them to FBI/DoJ, whoever is doing the check. I would imagine that in Japan there are also legit authorities to do the fingerprinting. When I did mine it was something like the department of identification and forensics of the city.
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