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qwunk89



Joined: 18 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 6:43 am    Post subject: Vinschool Hanoi Reply with quote

Hi,

Does anyone have any reliable info on Vinschool? Is it a good place to work? Overall, first-hand experiences?

Thanks
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Mattingly



Joined: 03 Jul 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I knew a few people that worked there but it was last year and the year before.

(So my info may not be up to date.)

More than a few people told me the same thing.

The salary was above average.

It's managed and run by business people who have little or no experience in education.

They sent several unnecessary emails for trivial and unrelated things.

Basic communication skills were very poor.

They went through several DOS positions, as westerners who be hired and then quit rather quickly.


Perhaps someone can chime in on some current information and conditions this year.
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sigmoid



Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
It's managed and run by business people who have little or no experience in education.


Yes, it's part of a large local corporate conglomerate. That doesn't necessarily make it bad, or at least not any worse than any of the other chains in VN, which are also run-for-profit businesses. At the same time, you'd have to expect the kind of corporate culture that Mattingly mentions.

Vingroup launches Vinschool brand

http://www.vingroup.net/en-us/news-events/press-information/pressreleases/vingroup-launches-vinschool-brand-2160.aspx
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Black_Beer_Man



Joined: 26 Mar 2013
Posts: 453
Location: Yokohama

PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can anybody else share their experiences working for Vinschool?

I am considering working for them.
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bule_boy69



Joined: 05 Mar 2007
Posts: 155
Location: Jakarta

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mattingly wrote:
I knew a few people that worked there but it was last year and the year before.

(So my info may not be up to date.)

More than a few people told me the same thing.

The salary was above average.

It's managed and run by business people who have little or no experience in education.

They sent several unnecessary emails for trivial and unrelated things.

Basic communication skills were very poor.

They went through several DOS positions, as westerners who be hired and then quit rather quickly.


Perhaps someone can chime in on some current information and conditions this year.


Aside from poor ability, did they happen to mention what the students were like? Doubt the majorly are as studious and angelic as they look on the website, and wonder if reality is that they are spoilt with attitude in general.
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Mattingly



Joined: 03 Jul 2008
Posts: 249

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bule_boy69 wrote:
Mattingly wrote:
I knew a few people that worked there but it was last year and the year before.

(So my info may not be up to date.)

More than a few people told me the same thing.

The salary was above average.

It's managed and run by business people who have little or no experience in education.

They sent several unnecessary emails for trivial and unrelated things.

Basic communication skills were very poor.

They went through several DOS positions, as westerners who be hired and then quit rather quickly.


Perhaps someone can chime in on some current information and conditions this year.


Aside from poor ability, did they happen to mention what the students were like? Doubt the majorly are as studious and angelic as they look on the website, and wonder if reality is that they are spoilt with attitude in general.


In general, I don't recall.

I do remember some behavioral problems discussed, however.
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needyreedy



Joined: 16 Dec 2016
Posts: 3

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recently left Vinschool. It was the worst school I have ever worked at in many years of teaching.

The salary is above average, but it is not worth the stress. I would strongly advise against joining this school under any circumstances.

In fact, the school is an absolute joke run by management who know nothing about education or staffing. They are appalling - particularly, the HR department who are unfortunately seem to be blessed with low IQs and low morals.

The management do not care about providing good quality education to students. In the primary school, there is no phonics or reading programmes, no structure, no communication, no disciplinary or reward systems. There are hardly any resources, and those they do have are poor quality and unreliable. The result is mostly poorly behaved students with a very low standard of English, with some great students mixed in.

So how does management try to remedy this? By punishing the (wonderful) teachers.

They overwork them by giving them two homeroom classes (at most bilingual schools in Asia, you’ll only teach one). The literacy standards at this school are so low, one class is enough to challenge any decent teacher.

The incompetent HR department stalk teachers on CCTV and circulate images via email for minor misdemeanours, they pay you late, they are not supportive but they are quick to fire off warnings and threats. They don’t treat the staff with respect.

The staff turnover is incredibly high – partly because morale is low and partly because HR get rid of people at short notice on a whim. There is no job security. Many teachers have been forced to contact lawyers because of HR's lack of professionalism.

There are far better schools out there - be kind to yourself.
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kwarning



Joined: 11 Nov 2012
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ditto needyreedy's comments without exception other than the comment re CCTV - no idea about that. Pay was quite good in relative terms but really; do yourself a favour and stay well away.
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