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Foreign University Programs on the Mainland

 
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twowheel



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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2019 2:00 pm    Post subject: Foreign University Programs on the Mainland Reply with quote

I know that this topic comes up from time to time and I am raising it yet again.

I am curious about these foreign university programs and wonder what working at one would be like. I know of at least eight such programs here on the Mainland:

University of Michigan/Shanghai Jiaotong
Carnegie Mellon/Sun Yatsen University
U. of Pitt/Sichuan University
Duke Kunshan
NYU Shanghai
Kean Wenzhou
Xi’an Jiaotong/Liverpool University
University of Nottingham/Ningbo University

Are there any others? What general comments do you have about such programs?

Also, of particular interest to me are the salary ranges that an experienced TESOL instructor with an M.A. in TESOL could command.

Thanks in advance.

Warm regards,
twowheel
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Elicit



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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2019 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would take no news as relatively good news. In the grander scheme of things, they seem to be better places to work.

As for salaries, a MA TESOL and ELT experience is not enough for some and will see you on a lower salary at others, unless the experience is EAP. For the smaller/choosier ones, additional pieces of paper may be required and/or boxes checked.
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jagb6f



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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 4:00 am    Post subject: Post Reply with quote

I admit some strong curiosity on this topic as well. I'm teaching at a University here in China and, while I love the life, I'm considering my future goals. I live right next to Suzhou where XJTLU is and I've done a bit of research on them at least as it counts for jobs.

The job that seems to fit my passions is Language Tutor, which requires a MA, preferably in Applied Linguistics as it says on the website as well as a CELTA or a Delta.

The salary is around 16k-20k based on qualifications it said, which is pretty damn nice for Suzhou. If anyone else has any more insight on working there, I'd love to hear more information.
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The bear



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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 12:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Post Reply with quote

jagb6f wrote:
I admit some strong curiosity on this topic as well. I'm teaching at a University here in China and, while I love the life, I'm considering my future goals. I live right next to Suzhou where XJTLU is and I've done a bit of research on them at least as it counts for jobs.

The job that seems to fit my passions is Language Tutor, which requires a MA, preferably in Applied Linguistics as it says on the website as well as a CELTA or a Delta.

The salary is around 16k-20k based on qualifications it said, which is pretty damn nice for Suzhou. If anyone else has any more insight on working there, I'd love to hear more information.


Starting salary at XJTLU is 20k. Rises depending on experience and qualifications. They are looking for an MA in a related field plus experience, however, they're pretty much always recruiting so if you have the MA then go ahead and apply. Worst they can say is 'sorry, no'.
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twowheel



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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2019 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is the "million dollar question": how far beyond the 20,000 RMB/mo. benchmark would be possible at one of these joint venture programs (excluding housing and travel allowances)?

Many thanks for the answers thus far.

I am considering my next move and these programs continually come up on my radar. My current situation is not bad, the money is good, but naturally I am always considering ways to make even more money. As was mentioned, the worst that would happen is that I would apply and the response would be "no, sorry", and then I would just keep keepin' on with what I've got.

Warm regards,
twowheel
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The bear



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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

twowheel wrote:
That is the "million dollar question": how far beyond the 20,000 RMB/mo. benchmark would be possible at one of these joint venture programs (excluding housing and travel allowances)?

Many thanks for the answers thus far.

I am considering my next move and these programs continually come up on my radar. My current situation is not bad, the money is good, but naturally I am always considering ways to make even more money. As was mentioned, the worst that would happen is that I would apply and the response would be "no, sorry", and then I would just keep keepin' on with what I've got.

Warm regards,
twowheel


It's become a lot harder to get promoted at XJTLU according to a friend who works there. Not impossible but it will take quite a while e.g. 5 years +. Unless you do something incredible. There are increments each year for satisfactory work, but these aren't much. Something like 200rmb a month.

If you've got a related MA, a long record of EAP teaching then you should be aiming for 25-28,000 RMB at XJTLU. If you have less experience then probably around 22,000.
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D. Amokachi



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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The University of Central Lancashire has partnerships with Hebei University, Shanghai University of Business and Economics, and Guangdong University of Foreign Studies, among others. They advertise fairly regularly on TEFL.com and jobs.ac.uk.

I have experience of working for them so if you have any questions then drop me a message.
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nimadecaomei



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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2019 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

twowheel wrote:
That is the "million dollar question": how far beyond the 20,000 RMB/mo. benchmark would be possible at one of these joint venture programs (excluding housing and travel allowances)?

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I am considering my next move and these programs continually come up on my radar.


Don't think of these as your only option twowheel. I used to work at one and now work in the international department of a public high school. My pay is better than before (and quite a bit better than 20k) and the benefits are awesome.
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