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"10 Things We Can Learn From Saudi Arabia"

 
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worldtraveller



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:44 am    Post subject: "10 Things We Can Learn From Saudi Arabia" Reply with quote

Story written by an ESL teacher who taught in Saudi Arabia.

https://medium.com/@steveghent/10-things-we-can-learn-from-saudi-arabia-188e660ea7b8
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was I the only one bothered by an English language teacher who misuses the apostrophe so often? sigh...
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worldtraveller



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must have missed that. Can you give an example of the apostrophe being used incorrectly?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He apparently doesn't know the difference between a plural and a possessive. One of those common mistakes that is one of my pet peeves from... average English speakers. One shouldn't see it repeatedly from a supposed language teacher.

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D. Merit



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it's quite painful reading.
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hash



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A writer purporting to educate his readers on Saudi Arabia by suggesting that while present in the Kingdom, Christopher Columbus had learned that “discovery goes both ways” (paragraph 3); who then gives us (section eight) a fabricated literary tour de force regarding Saudi dietary habits and the health benefits of consuming spices and lentils (neither native to KSA soil), without once mentioning the raging incidence of diabetes now afflicting nearly 20% of the population; who subsequently waxes poetic on KSA architecture (section 9) by focusing - in a detailed and engrossing description - on where bathrooms are located in KSA homes (and why), and who finally ends his phantasmagoria with the startling and grammatically challenged comment that “dogs are man’s best friend”, was obviously in residence in KSA for far too short a period of time……..or for way too long a period of time.

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caliph



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He must have left before his “honeymoon” period ended.
Dogs, najess, unclean. Not a best friend in Saudi.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually enjoyed the read, it's tiring to only read rants and negatives all the time, on a side note, I don't agree with the bathroom part! I hated those constantly wet bathrooms lol.
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yurii



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hash wrote:
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A writer purporting to educate his readers on Saudi Arabia by suggesting that while present in the Kingdom, Christopher Columbus had learned that “discovery goes both ways” (paragraph 3); who then gives us (section eight) a fabricated literary tour de force regarding Saudi dietary habits and the health benefits of consuming spices and lentils (neither native to KSA soil), without once mentioning the raging incidence of diabetes now afflicting nearly 20% of the population; who subsequently waxes poetic on KSA architecture (section 9) by focusing - in a detailed and engrossing description - on where bathrooms are located in KSA homes (and why), and who finally ends his phantasmagoria with the startling and grammatically challenged comment that “dogs are man’s best friend”, was obviously in residence in KSA for far too short a period of time……..or for way too long a period of time.

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One thing that surprised me was this:

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6. The importance of a second language
Saudi’s learn English beginning in Kindergarten…and continue to learn English into their high school and college years. In fact, all of their courses such as Calculus and Physics are taught in a second language — English. Think about that from our point of view: Learning Calculus and Physics in Arabic? The only classes not taught in English are Arabic and Islam.


How does that explain why, in EF's English proficiency Index, KSA are literally one of the lowest?? They are in position 83 out of 88 countries in terms of English competency. Either the author is exaggerating or the teaching isn't working.


Number 4 is absolutely bizarre! So, let's act like sexism/lack of women's rights and the division of women and men is a good thing? Is the author trying to suggest that the world can learn something here from Saudi Arabia? How ludicrous. The author states that:

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One of the fastest ways to be sentenced to a public flogging and/or jail is to harass or disrespect a female.


From Amnesty International on Saudi Arabia:

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Despite limited reforms, including allowing women to drive, women faced systematic discrimination in law and practice and were inadequately protected against sexual and other violence.
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AbeCross



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:39 pm    Post subject: Sloppy writing Reply with quote

veiledsentiments wrote:
Was I the only one bothered by an English language teacher who misuses the apostrophe so often? sigh...


Agreed. An English teacher should know better.
There are numerous other problems with it, too. Where was the proofreader?
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