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NBF



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 5:41 pm    Post subject: EF Palembang Reply with quote

My partner and I are currently considering a teaching position with EF in Palembang, and were just wondering if anyone had any feedback regarding the school, the city, or life in Indonesia in general. Thanks.
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TEAM_PAPUA



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 5:19 am    Post subject: 8 Reply with quote

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My partner and I are currently considering a teaching position with EF
say no more...help yourself now by avoiding this company like the plague.

Indonesia is incredible, despite recent (and not so recent) events, but leave EF Indonesian franchises well alone.



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NBF



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update: We've actually been offered the position now, and would greatly appreciate ANY feedback that anyone has. Is it common for an employer in Indonesia to offer a job without a phone interview at least?
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gugelhupf



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 7:40 am    Post subject: Re: 8 Reply with quote

[quote="TEAM_PAPUA"]
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Indonesia is incredible, despite recent (and not so recent) events, but leave EF Indonesian franchises well alone.



T_P Cool


That's a bit unfair isn't it? There are some EF franchises in Indonesia I wouldn't touch with a long stick but there are also reputable ones - just look at other posts on the forum. You won't get rich working for them but there are some decent DoS's working for EF.
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El Llama



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is extremely uncommon to be offered a post without even speaking to anyone at the school and it would not be prudent to accept without knowing the kind of details that a phone interview could provide.

NBF, have you been offered the position directly, or through a recruiting agency? This smells like ESL Asia to me (may be going under a different name by now. Check this thread: http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=12155 ). Have you been asked to send off original documents or pay an "administration fee?"

Even if this is a direct offer from EF, it might be a good idea to at least have a chat with your prospective boss. Indonesia is desperate for teachers, but are you desperate for EF Palembang?

Good luck.

El Llama.
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Joachim



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmmmm, well the food from that region of Sumatra is delicious......

But other that that I can't think of any positives (bear in mind though, I never actually worked there, or for EF in Indonesia).
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ls650



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:43 pm    Post subject: Re: 8 Reply with quote

gugelhupf wrote:
That's a bit unfair isn't it? There are some EF franchises in Indonesia I wouldn't touch with a long stick but there are also reputable ones - just look at other posts on the forum.


I agree. It's a franchise operation: some EF schools are bad but others are decent. I recommend the OP try to contact teachers who have worked or work now at this school to ask them directly what they think of the school.
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NBF



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry all, I've made a mistake with my original post. The position is with EF Cibubur, not Palembang. We had applied at both and I got them mixed up.
Anyway, the offer is directly from the DOS (I believe) at this particular school. They have not asked for anything in the way of documents or fees. My initial feeling was that it seemed a little too easy, and when the position was offered without asking for a phone interview I got that suspicious gut feeling.
We requested the email address and phone number from teachers currently at the school, and were provided with an email address, so we do have the option of some further feedback.
Thanks to everyone who has replied.
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AsiaTraveller



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TEAM_PAPUA wrote:
All Chinese girls should be herded into a large field & SHAVED

T_P Cool


I wouldn't (and don't) trust any opinion from somebody who has that sentence as part of his signature.

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AsiaTraveller



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NBF:

I assume that you know that Palembang and Cibubur are worlds apart, although not that far by plane within Indonesia!

Palembang is a rather nice, medium-sized city that is the capital of the province of South Sumatra. Its main focal point is its river. There are nearby green parks and mountains to visit. The food from west and south Sumatra is famous all over Indonesia as being very spicy but extremely tasty.

Cibubur is part of the urban sprawl that is Jakarta, Indonesia's capital metropolis on the island of Java. Cibubur is actually a district in the 'city' of East Jakarta but is not too bad as far as urban places go. There are plenty of green spots. It is also home to military installations (including a notorious detention facility with torture) and major sporting events held at the Cibubur Scout Camp.

Also in Cibubur (or very close) is one of Indonesia's prime urban tourist destinations: Taman Mini Indonesia. This is a huge theme park that tries to reproduce the culture of each of Indonesia's provinces. Very kitsch, but a must-see.

Do a search on 'Cibubur' here on Dave's ESL Cafe. I think it came up recently in some discussion or other.

Hope this is helpful!
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Winmar



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey that was a nice and helpful reply! Cool

Definitely find out from someone who's worked there what the school is like. Some EF franchises are horrible, but others are pretty good. Certainly pays to do your homework, as if the place turns out to be dodgy, there are always plenty of others which will take you.
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everybody_loves_chandler



Joined: 22 Nov 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:44 am    Post subject: EF Palembang Reply with quote

hey folks,

I live in Palembang and run with the EF crew in the weekends. Tight bunch but as usual everyone has their hangups. The DOS is friendly and approachable. I've met the boss and she seems ok. I havent heard any complaints about her. The thing I have against working there is the 4 million rupiah a month. Its just not enough. With the market being as it is and the difficulty in supplying teachers for positions, for those of us already here, negotiating contracts is simply a must. They need us more than we need them.

DoC
Razz
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