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travellingtefler



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 9:07 pm    Post subject: ELO? Reply with quote

I've heard that an organisation called ELO are operating in Oman.

I think they are recruiting teachers for the ministries.

Has anyone heard of them?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's ELS and there are some threads below. You might try a search.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 2:49 am    Post subject: Thanks Reply with quote

Although I've read the earlier post - I didn't think it could be ELS as the posts I heard about were quiite presitigious (teacher trainers for schools).

Things must be changing there - I'll try to investigate further.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prestigious? the Ministry jobs? Well, depends on your point of view, I guess. Smile Some of the posts may be, but it is just as likely that they are teaching basic English in the teacher training colleges of the hinterlands.

There has been talk of an ELC and ELS, but the only ELO I have ever heard of was a band. Cool

Do let us know if you find out anything more.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 2:21 pm    Post subject: I agree Reply with quote

When I heard, I thought of ELS but didn't connect them with prestigious posts.

However, other threads have said they will run the foundation year in Nizwa so maybe they're getting better.

However - I'll still keep checking.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

travellingtefler,

I like your positive attitude Smile

But - a posting here told of people who had been offered jobs with them in Nizwa who had no education in EFL or teaching experience or Middle East knowledge. Shocked

Scary stuff to me. I hate to see Oman heading in this direction, but an exploding student body, teacher shortage, and limited funds is causing them to take what seems to me to be some poor decisions.

I only hope that ELS managed to get some experienced teachers to train their own teachers to be able to teach English to the future Omani English teachers.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 2:54 am    Post subject: I hope you're right Reply with quote

I agree with everything you said, VS.

However, I hope this is a new company and I'm asking around.

If not, I hope they have improved.

My experience with ELS is that I met a very nice DOS who was working in Abu Dhabi with them and agreed to go there. However, she left after a short period saying that she could not cope with the demands placed on her. She was nice enough to send me an email telling me this.

I had a job offer from them - travel date pending - and that's where it remains. That was in 2001.

Given what I've read on the board and heard since I've been in the ME - I think I was very lucky.

Reading the forums, I just don't understand why companies just don't try to do things correctly and look after their staff and students - it's better for business in the end and it leaves people with such positive memories.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TT

Do let us know if you find that this is another company.

ELS in Oman has always had problems - keeping management - keeping teachers - from day one. They seemed to run a permanent ad for management there. I met a couple of them - actually assisting them to get another job so that they could get out. The Abu Dhabi branch has seemed to function well over the years - at least for their part timers.

And if you ever find the answer as to why so many of these language schools are so poorly managed, I'm sure that everyone in every branch of this board would love to know the answer. Smile It just seems such common sense to us, doesn't it?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 7:54 pm    Post subject: ELS Reply with quote

Still searching for info about ELO.

Re - ELS - I know a lot of the part-timers are moon lighting from ADNOC and in Oman, all the part-timers are reasonably happy. You go in, do your classes, get paid on time and go.

It seems to me that the problems start when someone is sponsored and they gain control.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 7:32 pm    Post subject: ELO Reply with quote

Someone mentioned ELO today - I think they're a small group (English Language Overseas?) - they specialise in managing teaching contracts. The person mentioned that they operated in the Middle East in the past.

Can anyone confirm this? We can all be glad it's not ELS (I hope)
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did they mention how long in the past? What countries? There have been some real scoundrels who have come and gone over the years in various incarnations. Smile

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 2:52 pm    Post subject: ELO Reply with quote

As far as I can find out - they were a husband and wife team who did recruitment in the past.

The husband died and the wife is doing the recruitment on her own.

Ring a bell with anyone?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

veiledsentiments wrote:
travellingtefler,
But - a posting here told of people who had been offered jobs with them in Nizwa who had no education in EFL or teaching experience or Middle East knowledge. Shocked



Somehow I missed the original posting saying this, so I'm commenting here.

I heard similar stories about the old manager (Nabil, who was a less than stellar manager,) offering jobs to inexperienced teachers, but the new manager is entirely different and ELS is improving drastically. They're also starting to require experienced teachers. As for Nizwa specifically, they are requiring at least 2 years EFL experience.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DingirEnki

I am glad to hear that they are now requiring people to have some experience. The students deserve the best teachers they can get - budgets allowing. Smile

Signor

What nationality is this person? It would be nice to hear from someone with experience with this organization. It seems that all one hears is bad stories about recruiters.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 3:36 am    Post subject: ELO Reply with quote

As far as I know - they were from the UK. But I'll try to check further.
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