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Julma



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 5:53 pm    Post subject: Legit TESOL? Reply with quote

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sojourner



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Julma,

I checked the site in question.They mention that their teacher training includes the "best aspects" of the CELTA and Trinity College programmes.Fair,enough.But if you contemplate eventually looking for work outside of China,you should possess an ACTUAL CELTA or Trinity certificate - not merely something that includes some of their "best aspects" !

The training programme you referred to may well provide you with some good ideas re ESL teaching.But as I have remarked in an earlier thread,brand-name recognition is an an important feature of the ESL world.So,stick to the two most well-known brands !

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Peter
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Julma



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:26 pm    Post subject: thanks! Reply with quote

thanks peter! i appreciate the reply. you are correct about the celta/trinity certification. so... am going to take the celta course in bangkok thru eccthai. they offer a 2-week "tesol" that kind of gets you ready for the celta. it's a bummer that nothing is offered in in early january so it's tesol in early december THEN on to the celta the end of january. will travel in-between.

again, thanks for the reply!!!

julma
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Julma,

You have certainly made the right decision in opting to do a CELTA course !

In your message, you mentioned that prior to commencing your CELTA training at ECC Bangkok you'll be doing a two week TESOL course that'll "get you ready" for CELTA.The alarm bells have just sounded for me ! Has ECC advised you that enrolling in this two week affair is essential if you wish to undergo CELTA training with them - or, is it optional ? If it's mandatory,then please look elsewhere to do your CELTA training ! Most centres that run CELTA courses usually advise that people do some background reading prior to commencement - usually the book by Jeremy Harmer,and sometimes a good book on grammar - but not to do a preliminary course ! Incidently,what is ECC charging for their "preliminary" training ?

If necessary,check the UCLES/CELTA site for any other centres in Thailand that may happen to run CELTA courses.If ECC is the only centre in Thailand that provides such training,then check the Trinity College site.I vaguely recall that there may be a language centre somewhere in Malaysia that provides training for the Trinity TESOL Certificate programme.

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Peter
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Julma



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 11:55 pm    Post subject: tesol as a "warm up" Reply with quote

hi peter!

the tesol that is offered is a 2-week course and i thought that it might be good to take as a "starter" before attempting the celta. from the www.eccthai.com posting:

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This course is designed for native and non-native speakers wishing to gain a basic qualification in Teaching English to Speakers of Other Languages. It also serves as an excellent preliminary course for those interested in the Cambridge CELTA. Currently the price of this course is US$395.


so you don't think it would serve as a good "preliminary" course? any suggestions would be most appreciated!

cheers!

julma
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stillnosheep



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As you know, you don't need any prelim before doing a Celta. Courses start from scratch and gradually introduce you to lesson planning, giving lessons etc. If you are want to prepare in advance (always good as a confidence booster) why not ask your CELTA course provider for a sugested reading list and borrow from a library a couple of books that seem interesting.
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sojourner



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Julma,

If you were to do the 'preliminary' TESOL course,I'm sure that it would provide you with many good ideas that would prove useful when you eventually tackle the actual CELTA course - but is it really worthwhile forking out US$ 395 for it;not to speak of the extra two weeks stuck inside a classroom,when there are so many other interesting things to do in Bangkok ?

Of course,prior to commencing your CELTA training it would be a VERY GOOD IDEA to do some preliminary reading -eg, the book by Jeremy Harmer or,if that isn't available,the one by Jim Scrivenor.Also,get hold of a good book about English grammar.During the 4 weeks of CELTA, you'll often hear a lot of grammatical terms used (eg,'past perfect continuous',etc) - become familiar with these before the course commences.Also,when considering a grammar book, choose one that includes references to 'time lines' - a very useful concept you should become familiar with,especially if you are given an assignment to do on the teaching of verb tenses.Also,on the subject of assignments,make sure that you start on them as soon as possible - don't leave them to the night before they're due !

Good luck !

Peter
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 7:20 pm    Post subject: Pre Celta Books Reply with quote

Pre Celta Books that you'll still use after the course.

Jim Scrivenor (or -ner): Learning Teaching.

Michael Swan is the author of the Grammar Bible, Practical English Usage, or somesuch.

I forget the name of the Harmar book
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AsiaTraveller



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeremy Harmer
The Practice of English Language Teaching (Third Edition)
Longman/Pearson (2001; fourth printing: 2003)
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