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Info on Shines Karawaci?

 
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Cardinal Synn



Joined: 01 Nov 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 11:44 am    Post subject: Info on Shines Karawaci? Reply with quote

Can some kind soul give me info on Shines in Karawaci?
Willy, you work there no? What are working conditions like, teachers, boss, accomodation and of course salary?
I hope someone can furnish me with some answers.
A big thank you in advance
CS
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willy



Joined: 29 Mar 2003
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Location: Samarinda,Kalimantan,Indonesia(left TW)

PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ARY YOU GOING TO WORK THERE?
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drgonzo



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was in contact with them and I do not remember all of the details now, but it seems to me that they expected quite a lot but gave very little.
I seem to remember they only offered $500 airfare, about 10 days vacation from which sick days are subtracted, etc., etc..
I basically told them I was not interested, and that if they wanted a quality teacher who was going to stick around that they should be less like slave drivers and more like reasonable employers.

The main problems were:
1. Only 1 western teacher expected to teach up to 6 days a week including split shifts. Essentially on-call for 12 hours a day.
2. 10 or 12 holidays from which sick days are subtracted from.... most schools offer at least 12 or 15 holidays + sick days.
3. $500 flight reimbursement
4. The housing is shared with a manager from the school (basically your boss), and if you do not want the housing, I think you were responsible for some of their deposit or rent???? Can't remember now.
5. 1 million rupiah medical coverage - a pathetically low amount.
6. Salary was 8 million /month.... but only 50000 overtime...

Thats all I can remember... I turned them down.
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Cardinal Synn



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info drgonzo.
Just wanted to know about the school after seeing their ad on the net. 8 mil? for up to 30 hours per week? That's lower than EF. Doesn't seem to make sense.
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willy



Joined: 29 Mar 2003
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Location: Samarinda,Kalimantan,Indonesia(left TW)

PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WELL ALL THE SHINES SCHOOLS ARE NEW AND HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO RUN A SCHOOL. THEY ONLY KNOW WHAT THE SALES MAN TOLD THEM AND BLEAVE ME HE DOSENT KNOW! HE ONLY KNOWS WHO TO SELL,SO THE WHOLE THING I BIG LOSS FOR THE POOR OWNER WHO HASNT A CLUE.
AND THATS FROM EXP........

YOU CAN COME HERE AND WORK BUT WE CANT PAY 10MIL AS IS IS A NEW SCHOOL AND WE CANT CHARGE THAT MUCH TO THE STUDENTS????
WHAT TO DO??
AND THE PLUG IS THE COST OF LIVING HERE IS 20-30% MORE THAN JAKARTA
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