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d-rail



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:54 am    Post subject: questions for north americans teaching in oz Reply with quote

I am exploring my possibilities of teaching English in Australia. I have a b.a. with a major in TEFL. From what i have been reading it's fairly difficult for u.s. citizens to get a teaching contract in australia. I was wondering if anyone could shed some light on this for me. What is the best way to go about getting a teaching job in australia for a u.s. citizen? how easy is it to get a job? any info/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. thanks.
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lozwich



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it is fairly difficult, but take a look at the Australian Immigration website http://www.dimia.gov.au, they have lots of information there, and you might find a loophole that allows you in.

Good luck!
Lozwich.
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sojourner



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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2005 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

D-rail,

When browsing the Immigration Dept web page, keep a lookout for links dealing with Working Holiday Visas. How old are you ? I'm not absolutely sure, but I think that the maximum age for such Visas is 30.

If you come into Australia on a Student's Visa, you are usually allowed to work for up to 20 hours per week. This option might be worth considering, especially if you are already contemplating doing a Master's degree - bearing in mind, also, that tuition fees in Australia are usually lower that what you'd be charged for back in the States.

It appears that many (most ?) teaching jobs at language schools, in Australia, are on a casual or part-time basis. However, you could also try getting some private tutoring work by, say, placing ads on noticeboards at universities, TAFE colleges, and the "community boards" at those supermarkets frequented by newcomers from non-English speaking backgrounds.

Which part of Australia are you hoping to go to ? Check the Yellow Pages and contact some of the language schools. In Melbourne, probably the largest one is Holmes Institute. They also have branches in other parts of Australia, eg the Gold Coast. Thus, if you manage to get a job at Holmes, in Melbourne, they might be able to recommend you to their other centres when you decide to "move on".

Peter
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d-rail



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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2005 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the replies. i have gone on to the immigration website and it looks like the an education visa might work. it gives me the time that i need but i cant remember off hand what the work stipulations are. As for the idea of hooking up with an organization like Holmes Institute, i like that idea. If the organization and the visa would permit it that would be very nice. i am not sure about posting on the community boards. i dont like the idea of going to australia with no job security whatsoever. that may work after i am a little established, for some extra cash, but it may be difficult initially. A few questions; are there any other large organizations such as the Holmes Inst.? i want to get as many options as i can. Also, i have searched the internet with countless hours, but have not found any websites that really cater to tefl in australia. are there any out there?
thanks for all the help
darrell
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lozwich



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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2005 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I've found two, but they are of varying value.

http://www.neasaustralia.com/
http://www.elicos.com/

There's a lot of different information there, but the best thing is the list of accredited schools.

Good luck!
Lozwich.
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JZer



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what are the chances of turning the working holiday visa for North Americans into something long term? I mean if your employer likes you and you are qualified (i.e. M.A. in ESL), is it possible for your employer to sponser you for a working visa after the working holiday visa is over?
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Super Mario



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Australian laws stipulate that if you wish to change your visa class [eg, temporary to permanent, student to working], you need to re-apply from outside the country: essentially go back home.
However, with sponsorship from an employer, your chances of coming back on a permanent resident visa would be good.

If you're here on a student visa you can legally work up to 20 hours a week during term time, and unlimited hours during vacation; there's plenty of seasonal [manual] work around over the long summer break.

To check out jobs, try www.careerone.com.au then enter ESL as your search term. There are plenty of ESL colleges around, although the hiring cycle for Term one, starting soon, appears to have finished. They generally work on 10 week renewable contracts. If you were doing a TESOL masters [eg Macquarie University Sydney but there's plenty of others], you'd find they offer part time courses with after-hours classes, as many of the students are practising teachers.

Sydney has a considerably higher cost of living than other cities. Places like Adelaide, Hobart, Perth, Brisbane are worth looking into.

Hope this helps: let me know if anything I've said doesn't check out.

ps if interested I can give you a link to an American managed ELICOS set up that often hires part-time. PM me.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Super Mario, thanks for the info. I will start looking into it. When I am done in Korea, I will look into making the move. I would like to be able to speak to people in English.
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JZer



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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www.careerone.com.au


On the ESL jobs on this site want someone with residency. Looks like I am out of luck.




Looks like I will have to look into Study Group Australia. The main thing is I need to become a certified teacher and then I should be able to find a job in Australia. How much do M.A. programs in Australia cost?



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Great EFL/ESL Teachers
Sun 22nd Jan 2006 08:03 GMT
Employer: StudyGroup Australia (Perth campus)
Location: Perth, Western Australia, Australia
Deadline: --
Experience: 1 year

Details:
StudyGroup Australia – Perth campus, comprising of:

Embassy CES – TESOL programs
Taylors College – High School English preparation, High School (years 10 – 12) and Foundation Year programs (entry to University of Western Australia and Murdoch University)
Martin College – Business and IT VET programs

The Perth campus has been delivering high quality education to international students in Perth for 19 years. We move to our beautiful new campus in January 06 in Claremont (close to the city and closest international campus to Cottesloe, Perth’s most famous beach). The campus is historic, but fully refurbished, modernized and resourced (A$1.6m renovation project) set in beautiful grounds and gardens, with full library & IT facilities, cricket oval and gymnasium. All staff and students have access to all UWA sport, club and recreation facilities.

StudyGroup Perth is seeking to appoint dedicated educators to a range of positions throughout the year in the following areas:

1. Embassy TESOL programs (General English, EAP & Academic Year Abroad)
2. Taylor’s High School English preparation programs (TELP)
3. Taylor’s TEE ESL & English high school (years 10 – 12) & Foundation Year English programs (UWAFY)

Opportunities are available on a regular basis for short and long term positions (working holiday applicants welcomed for Embassy & TELP), however, peak commencement times are Jan 06, Mar/Apr 06, June/July 06, Sept/Oct 06 and Jan 07.

Please refer to the selection criteria closely, as applications that do not comply will not be considered. Please indicate clearly which position(s) you are applying for.

Please note that positions may be available in Taylor’s College for other high school and foundation subjects, however different selection criteria apply. Candidates interested in other subjects are welcome to forward their applications and they will be passed on to the relevant Dean of Studies for that area, however, there is no guarantee that the application will meet the selection criteria or that a response will be received.

Qualifications:
Selection Criteria – qualifications & experience

Embassy TESOL programs, in order of preference:

1a. Bachelors (any subject, linguistics or English language preferred) + CELTA ‘B’ or above
1b. Above + Graduate Diploma in Education (Secondary) ‘Distinction’ or above
OR B Ed. + CELTA ‘B’ or above
2. Bachelors (any subject) + Graduate Diploma (TESOL) ‘Distinction’ or above

+ 1 year experience minimum in a reputable TESOL school
DELTA & experience in Cambridge, IELTS & Academic English highly regarded

Taylor’s High School English preparation, high school ESL & English, & Foundation Year English programs:

1. Bachelors (any subject) + Graduate Diploma in Education (Secondary) ‘Distinction’ or above + CELTA ‘B’ or above
OR B Ed. + CELTA ‘B’ or above
2. Bachelors (any subject) + Graduate Diploma (TESOL) ‘Distinction’ or above

+ 1 year experience minimum in a high school/reputable TESOL school
DELTA & Masters in Applied Linguistics/TESOL highly regarded
Experience in Academic English or IELTS highly regarded

Selection criteria – all teaching staff

1. Eligibility to work in Australia (citizen or permanent resident) OR eligibility for work visa in Australia (please refer to www.immi.gov.au to check eligibility prior to application).
2. Committed to excellence in engaging educational delivery and student success.
3. Interested in being part of a collegiate atmosphere and willing to participate in non-teaching college activities.
4. Professional, friendly and computer literate.


Compensation:
Teachers are paid according to qualifications and experience under separate Embassy and Taylors award agreements, which are higher than the standard award rates. Staff also have access to all UWA sporting and recreation facilities.

StudyGroup – Education Specialists Worldwide


Employer:
StudyGroup Australia (Perth campus)
Company Background: Study Group helps over 35,000 international students fulfil their ambitions every year.

We are global leaders in international education and training, providing a complete range of educational opportunities for students from over 120 countries. From English language training to high school and university study, our expertise helps our students - from young people to seasoned professionals - achieve their personal goals.

Our objectives are simple: to build a thriving, world-class business, offering outstanding educational opportunities. We respond to the needs of international students, delivering the programmes they want in the locations they want. This ethos has underpinned our dramatic growth while delivering success for hundreds of thousands of people worldwide. Our policy of meeting student needs has led to us becoming industry-leaders in a few short years.
Address:
Goldsworthy Road, Claremont
Perth, Western Australia
6010 - Australia
http://www.studygroup.com/
Telephone: +61 (0)8 9337 9022
Fax: +61 (0)8 9331 3177
Contact person: Steven Smith, Dean of Languages
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Chonbuk



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I'm from Canada. I came here to do my M.ed. with a concentration in TESOL.

I'm still here as a dependent on a student visa, cause my partner is doing a Master's I have no work limitations.

But getting work in Oz is difficult, if you are looking for a professional environment. Getting work at an ELICOS school is much easier, but the conditions and salary are not as good.

Important thing to keep in mind is the ESL is seasonal, and right now things are entering the slow season. Summer is the busiest.

If you want to stay in OZ the best thing to do is get a teaching certificate and do some remote area teaching.


Good luck with your decisions.


Cheers,

Chonbuk
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