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sivaparvati



Joined: 21 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:24 am    Post subject: Canadian/certification Reply with quote

I am a Canadian citizen and am thinking of going to Spain (Barcelona) to teach english. I currently live in Taiwan and have 3 years teaching experience here and 6 months in Cambodia. I have a BA from Canada but no TESOL or such certification. Do I need this to teach in Spain?
As a non EU citizen can I find work legally? Is it difficult?
And... I have a dog. Is Barcelona a good place for a dog - space, parks etc.?
any advice appreciated.
thanks.
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Moore



Joined: 25 Aug 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you�re illegal, then your qualifications don�t really matter to be honest. Don�t forget, there�s a clampdown on illegals going on here, after they had an amnesty this year, and the government is now charging any school 30,000 euros per illegal worker found.
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foss



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But is the clampdown really going to be applied to North Americans working for pocket money in their year out? I'm not sure, TEFL seems to have its own laws.
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Moore



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The law is going to be applied to any company employing illegal workers. If you go down the route of giving private lessons you�ll probably be ok, but schools are getting really really jumpy about it - many schools here employ four or five Americans, but that will now add up to 120,000 euros in fines. Also, the government are also going to go after schools for tax-evasion (if they aren�t paying social security, they�re also not paying taxes on the revenue they generate) which involves property confiscation and even prison sentences - food for thought for even the most dodgy academy.
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JimRoss



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure the rules are very strict.

Spain has been in the EU for many years and has some very strict laws that are completely in-line with European Union directives.

The problem in Spain is that there is often very little relationship between what the law says and what actually happens when it comes to laws that are of secondary importance.

I have lived and worked in Spain for 10 years and I know lots of people who have worked here as teachers for many years. Many of these people are from the USA, Canada, Australia. None of them have noticed any change in the way they are treated by their respective employers despite the fact they are "paperless".

Good, bad or indifferent - in Spain there are two worlds:- what the law says and what really happens. Whether Spain will start to impose their new immigration law seriously remains to be seen, but as of now, it's business as usual and no sign of change on the horizon.

Jim Ross,

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Moore



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Much as I love having my Candadian/Ozzie/Yank mates here, their being illegal erodes the rights of those who are legal (quite apart from employing people and not paying social security / employers ripping off the tax-payer etc. etc.). Employers are there to make money, and if they know there�ll be another grateful illegal happy to do your job without demanding any basic rights (year round salary, decent wages, etc.) then they will continue to not give those fundamental things to legal European workers.
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