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dmb



Joined: 12 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 11:31 pm    Post subject: A question Reply with quote

OK here is the background.
You have something and you no longer have it.(my flatmate moved out and took one of the cats with her)
what do say?
I miss not having .......
or
I miss ............
I'd say the former but my g/f says the latter. Is this a British English/ N. American English thing?
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FGT



Joined: 14 Sep 2003
Posts: 761
Location: Turkey

PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand both but feel differently about them. As to what I would teach, how I would teach the difference, that's difficult.

"I miss not having the cat" says what it says but is neutral on emotion. You lack a feline pet.

"I miss the cat" is more personal, you miss that particular cat, her character, the way she nibbled your ear etc.

This is very much a post pub spiel, please forgive my gut reaction response. Tomorrow morning (actually afternoon) when I check, others will have given much better responses, or 31 will have hijacked this to slag off ET again.
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dmb



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
This is very much a post pub spiel
That's good because it was a post pub question Very Happy
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Baba Alex



Joined: 17 Aug 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 6:36 am    Post subject: Re: A question Reply with quote

dmb wrote:
OK here is the background.
You have something and you no longer have it.(my flatmate moved out and took one of the cats with her)
what do say?
I miss not having .......
or
I miss ............
I'd say the former but my g/f says the latter. Is this a British English/ N. American English thing?

Are you two drunk?

I always thought I miss not having the cat around would be a double negative ie. The cat was here, and that is the state I miss.

But I hate cats anyhoot, so what can I say.
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yaramaz



Joined: 05 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh dear, dmb, I guess I should have joined you guys last night when your gf called. I could have been the impartial 3rd party (who recently acquired a cat of her own in case you fancy a ball of nameless purry fur to make friends with)
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