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[teachme27]

HI everyone! Okay I am a US citizen and want to teach ESL in Toronto Canada then abroad. I know most people go abroad first. But I have a boyfriend in Toronto and want to stay with him for a year or so and then teach abroad. Would getting a work visa be hard? I have a BS in Communications and TESOL/TESL Certificate. Also what about a skilled worker visa? Uggh need some good advice from a Canadian citizen.. other advice welcome too!

[spiral78]

I'm a U.S. citizen with an MA in TESL/TEFL and ten years of experience, six from universities. I couldn't get a visa to work in Canada with my qualifications. There is no lack of qualified English language teachers in Canada, so it's not a qual that will get you in.

I'm in Canada because my spouse's international company sponsored me. I'm legal to work, and am employed by a university, but not based on my own qualifications.

And, what's a TESOL/TEFL? Do you mean that you have a cert. from Global Tesol College? If so, you should know that it's not a real entry-level certification.

Basic certification accepted by schools internationally is 100+ hours on site, including at least 6 hours of supervised teaching practice of real students (not peer teachers) with feedback from qualified teacher trainers.

Further (I've read your post on another thread) if you've got 40,000k in debt, your options are seriously limited, probably to Korea. Entry level positions simply don't pay enough to make any dent in that kind of debt, regardless of the country.

Not to be entirely discouraging, but you probably need to be a bit more realistic in your expectations. You can succeed, but you need to know what you are facing.

[teachme27]

Yeah that was me on the other post! I am just exploring my options. I know Korea would be better but wanted some experience before I go and if I was able to spend time with my boyfriend in Toronto that would make me happy! Thanks for the comments I appreciate it! I am going to work for a Language school that hasa location in Toronto but they wont sponsor a visa so I wanted to know about obtaining a work visa from someone who has experienced it or knows someone who has. I guess I should have mentioned that!

[spiral78]

Yes, you're probably going to have trouble getting a work visa. Canada's not that open to U.S. citizens, and, while a school might take you if you've already got a visa, it's like Western Europe. A language school can't argue before the law that there is no Canadian citizen who can do the job.

Good luck with Korea, though. That might work for you.

[ls650]

I'd have to second the Korea recommendation as well. With your qulifications you should be able to find a decent full-time job there.
A couple of the folks I work with taught there for a year. They worked hard, but were able to bank about $1000 US each per month.

[teachme27]

Thank you but I am having more interest in Japan now! I know the cost of living is higher but I think I would blend in better there..hmm still up for debate!

[GambateBingBangBOOM]

Here's a thread on teaching in Canada:

http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/job/viewtopic.php?t=47654&highlight=churning+canada

Almost half of all immigrants to Canada go to Toronto. Almost every community college and university in Toronto has a one-year certificte in Teaching English as a Second Language, each one churning out over thirty students a year. There aren't that many jobs.

The market is already flooded. That's why there are so many Canadians overseas. But it's not just teaching English. Most people who work in big box stores manning a cash register or unloading stock onto shelves or slinging coffee in Toronto have at least one degree, sometimes two and sometimes have graduate degrees and certificates as well.

[teachme27]

Thank you I will keep all those things in mind! But also wanted just to add one more question.. skilled workers visa. What do you know about it and how it works or if its easy to obtain. Otherwise unless I marry (to my Canadian Boyfriend) thats the only other option.

[spiral78]

It is not easy to obtain. As I said before, I have an MA in TESL/TEFL and nearly 10 years of experience - but I could not get a skilled workers visa to teach English in Canada.

[spiral78]

If you really want to do it, get married.

The market for ESL in Toronto is quite competitive, and with your newbie qualifications, you'll be employable - but not above the average.

[GambateBingBangBOOM]

[teachme27]

Okay.. yes I do have other experience non related to teaching English. I checked this list it isnt on there .. your right! Okay thanks.. yea I forget you did mention your experience Spiral78 but I llike to also get different opinions and advice!

[canadashirleyblue]

There are all kinds of foreign trained workers who are at burger joints or sweeping floors. I don't really understand why they came to Canada in the first place.

I used to think that it was terrible that doctors (for example) who were qualified in their own country couldn't work here. After all there is around a million people in Ontario without a gp. Then I saw what medical conditions are like in some countries. I am really glad that our government places restrictions on foreigners working here.

[VanKen]

[canadashirleyblue]

Fair enough. But, thankfully, she is not working as a judge!