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Does anyone know if..LONDON!!
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barryp



Joined: 31 May 2007
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Location: Israel

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stillnosheep wrote:
London in the 70s: Dustman and Fireman strike; rubbish piling up in the streets; rats everywhere; homelessness growing.

London in the 80s: The Thatcher years (growing disparity between rich and poor; chronic public-sector underfunding; streets get dirtier; homelessness grows further)

London in the 90s: Rich:poor gap remains constant; streets get cleaner; homelessnes stabilises

London in the 21st century: London booming; gap widening but very poorest getting wealthier; streets much much cleaner; homelessness a fraction of what it was in the 80s and early 90s.

Moral of the story: There never was a golden age, Take off them backward-looking rose-tinteds and enjoy the day.


Very poorest getting wealthier, homelessness a fraction of what it was, enjoy the day.
You sound like a conservative party political broadcast before an election.

Laughing
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lolwhites



Joined: 29 Jun 2005
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Location: France

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that there was never a golden age, but the original question that kicked this thread off was whether an EFL teacher could earn a decent living in London. The answer seems to be "Only if you moonlight as a rent boy for foreign billionaires."
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stillnosheep



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Homelessness down. Standard of living up. London booming. Olympics on their way.

EFL wages in London aren't good, but the city itself is doing well.

You can make a living, but not a great one unless you teach lucrative privates or find yourself a lucrative niche.
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caramel



Joined: 25 Aug 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being from London myself I have to say it is quite expensive to live here and on a TEFL wage it can be worse! So my advise is, if you want to stay in London ,which can be a cool city in some places (eg Camden, Clapham, Kensington and Chelsea, Soho....), then get a "normal" job i.e. working in an office etc etc etc.
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stillnosheep



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where else could you see the London Symphony Orchestra performing a new score accompanying A Throw of Dice in the open air for free one week followed by the San Francisco Symphony Orchestra and the Vienna Philharmonic for a fiver each the next and the Boston Symphony Orchestra for a fiver the week after?
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tabbicat



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whatever you're earning, you can still have a great time in London. I've lived there on two occasions with not much money, and found loads to do which cost little or nothing. I recommend the following activities: walk, cycle, visit parks and museums (many are free), people watch, meet people, go jogging, and find out what you're entitled to if on a low income. A year or two living in London is an experience worth having, even if hard up financially. Then move on.
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Pelican_Wrath



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I disagree that London tube fares are exorbitant.

I went from Heathrow to Manor house when I visited there from China in summer 2007. It cost 2.20. That's not exorbitant at all.

Of course, if you're fucktarded enough to pay the cash fares, then you deserve all you get.
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newmexican



Joined: 10 May 2005
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Location: London, UK

PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 11:41 am    Post subject: you can do it Reply with quote

I work for a school in London that offers most of it's teachers 'full-time' contracts of 30 hours per week, and brand- new teachers get 10 per hour - up to 13 if you have experience. And unlike some schools, you get paid for the full hour, they don't subtract the 10 minute breaks from your pay. It doesn't pay enough for you to live alone or in a central area, but if you share with flatmates and/or live a little further out, you can definitely live in London. The museums are free, and Sam Smith's pubs have cheap beer, and grocery prices aren't too bad. London is VERY expensive, though, and you won't be able to afford a lot of luxuries.
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BELS



Joined: 24 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone ever managed to top up their meagre income in teaching small groups or individuals privately?
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