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[jnicolson21]

Hamish, I worked in Oxfordcrown last year and cannot stress strongly enough that Marcus is right, you SHOULD NOT go and work there. PM me if you want more details.

[BELS]

I have edited my statement to make it easier for you and here it is:

guarantee you of a decent salary? of perhaps �800 per week, plus health cover, driver and care of your childrens' education etc..

I would forget them, and even if whether you are a single person or whether you need to keep a family you should be treated with the same respect. And that's the problem with the EFL profession. We are treated with disrespect throughout the world.

If they want to seek a good professional , then they should make a decent offer suitable either for a single person or for a person with a family like any other decent expat.

Stop all this crap. Accept a decent offer or refuse what they have to offer. You are professionals, and you should be treated as such. Have some pride, and don't be fooled by adventure, and don't be ripped off.


I'm sorry that you find my 394 posts incoherent and not useful to this site. But I know for a fact that I never babble!!! And members who know me here know that for a fact!!! I normally state truth and fact!!!!

And may I bow down to you as a most knowlegable and useful person to this site in regards to Russia in teaching rather than me !!!

Now please , can we now get back on to the topic of what we are talking about for this particular thread? Boy OH Boy!!! You have been so useful to us on this forum with your 54 posts. I bow down to you with your knowledge and experience. It looks like we don't need anyone else. You are so knowledgable and great!! What do you advice for the questions that have been asked on this thread?

[spiral78]

From someone who generally just lurks on the Russia/CIS forum, because my experience there is limited....for what my two cents might be5 worth....

BELS, your posts are generally useful, but it's clear that you're not a native English speaker (or if you are, something's gone dreadfully wrong).

That is not a problem - and you are obviously a valuable member of the forum. But if others criticise your syntax...well, it WAS problematic. Do continue to give your valuable perspective on the teaching scene, but it's not necessary to defend your English usage. We can deal with non-native English on Dave's, but it's easier when it's openly acknowledged.

[BELS]

[spiral78]

Yeah, like many of us, I too type quickly and am often tired or have had a bit to drink. But I'm still 1) a native English speaker and 2) a professional English teacher. If my grasp of the language slipped to a degree where other posters were commenting, I'd be very, very worried.

However, if English ISN'T one's native language, and the above conditions apply, then everyone's going to be more understanding...

[rusmeister]

[Peg Leg Pete]

Yes, Oxford Crown are back looking for victims! This time the story is that those responsible for not paying teachers and other dodgy tactics have been sacked.

Don't fall for it, keep well clear

[coledavis]

Leaving aside Bels' contributions to the English language (long time no see, by the way), I would like to return to the original query.

A three month visa may be issued in the short-term but it certainly shouldn't be repeated again and again. The aim should be to extend the initial visa to the end of the first academic year, then to go for an annual visa. Repeated 3-monthers sound distinctly dodgy, perhaps a variation on business visa abuse (which anyway should not allow you to return until after a 90 day period away - you should get 90 days in any 180 day period). So I would suggest you avoid this.

The use of Oxford is a common marketing tool for CIS countries, as students like the idea. It does not in itself denote dishonesty. The visa, however, does worry me and it could lead to you getting in trouble.

[Peg Leg Pete]

Single-entry three month visas can be obtained back-to-back, although these do not give one the right to work legally.

[coledavis]

They sound lke tourist visas. Certainly not for working.

[Peg Leg Pete]

Not tourist visas, but business visa and still no good for legal employment.

[coledavis]

Business visas are not to my knowledge issued back-to-back, if you mean by that that the holder can stay in the country for extended and uninterrupted periods of time. Each business visa allows you stay for up to 90 days in any period of 180 days (commonly interpreted by teachers as three months uninterrupted stay). They can be viewed as 'back to back' in that (a) you can get a multiple entry one year visa, where one 180 day period is followed by another 180 day period and (b) I doubt if there is a problem getting another one for the following year. But they do not offer continuous extended stays; they are still for a maximum of 90 days in any given 180. And as noted previously, they are not for employment, neither are they a licence to offer private tuition.

[Peg Leg Pete]

Those are multi-entry business visas.

A three-month business visa can be issued the day after (in practice two days after) the old visa expires. There is no restriction as the visa is only valid for 90 days. There is no limit to how many you may have in a year. Moscow has many teachers operating on such visas.

[coledavis]

Interesting. Wouldn't each fresh visa require fresh completion outside the country? I wonder if the school or the teacher is paying for all the travel and administration costs. In that employment on a business visa isn't legal, I wouldn't take the risk, personally. The school is probably playing fast and loose with the tax authorities, amongst other things, if it is employing illegally.

[Sashadroogie]

Are you sure about this, Pete? I have never heard of any distinction between multi-entry and single-entry business visas in terms of the 90/180 rule. In any case, aren't business visas only issued outside of the Federation? Would stil be a pain to have to exit ans re-enter every three months.