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gregmcd101
Joined: 06 Jun 2006 Posts: 144 Location: Ireland (for now)
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:54 am Post subject: Salary? |
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Just what are the HUGE salarys people talk about? I tried looking on their site but my computer is having a tiff with adobe reader... |
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Tabula Rasa
Joined: 14 Jul 2008 Posts: 5
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:13 pm Post subject: Re: Salary? What salary? |
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gregmcd101 wrote: |
Just what are the HUGE salarys people talk about? I tried looking on their site but my computer is having a tiff with adobe reader... |
The salaries vary, depending on how much chapstick you have strategically placed on SJ's sit-upon. The advertised rates and the actual rates don't match up, and the annual increases are not based on seniority, experience, or even how well you have done during the year.
The whole process at the ELC at XJTLU is opaque. More transparency, perhaps even a committee, would be welcome.
Which brings us to the most disturbing part of the ELC: lack of teacher input. I was just interviewed at a University where TEACHERS made up the search committee, and the questions (and answers) were brutally honest. I appreciate that MUCH more than the smoke-and-mirrors method at XJTLU. |
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DaXueSheng
Joined: 20 Nov 2008 Posts: 7
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Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:36 am Post subject: |
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Not everything in China is as it seems. Milk powder or universities, the label means nothing. Who writes the salary checks? I'd safely bet that the University of Liverpool does not pay one single salary anywhere in Suzhou. Not even SJ's sit upon. |
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cj750nomad
Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 252 Location: Beijing and
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Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:51 am Post subject: |
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many of these programs work like franchises.... where the company pays a fee for the use of a name...and the payment of employees come from the money generated from the program on ground in china.. if legit (and by that I mean issued frm the legit uni).. usually u r paid in foreign funds.. as the money has to go through accounting and then is dispersed...again usually through a bank acct... |
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DaXueSheng
Joined: 20 Nov 2008 Posts: 7
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Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:17 am Post subject: |
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nomad,
try an F800 ST...
True, licencing is an option for some China entrants. But actually, I was indirectly pointing out the Chinese use of western names... like King's College, Oxford etc. that have no relationship to the ones we are familiar with. I recently discovered that XXXX Canadian College had nothing to do with Canada except that the owner had travelled there sometime in the past. Off on a tangent... oops.
I was just wondering if the Suzhou uni thread was a similar thingy. |
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cj750nomad
Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 252 Location: Beijing and
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Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:23 am Post subject: |
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Nice....haven't ever tooled a Beemer... but would be willin if u ever come through my way. |
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Sallyman
Joined: 07 Nov 2007 Posts: 7
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:38 am Post subject: Back |
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I'd like to thank everyone on this thread. One of my friends is working at XJTLU now, and the STORIES are incredible.
I can't say how glad I am that we have this community to warn each other.
We need a UNION!
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SnoopBot
Joined: 21 Jun 2007 Posts: 740 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:17 am Post subject: Re: Back |
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Sallyman wrote: |
I'd like to thank everyone on this thread. One of my friends is working at XJTLU now, and the STORIES are incredible.
I can't say how glad I am that we have this community to warn each other.
We need a UNION!
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How bad are the stories? Was my posting and information (above) deemed correct? |
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losing_touch_two
Joined: 19 Feb 2009 Posts: 2
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Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:36 am Post subject: |
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Yes, current information would be appreciated. |
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Sallyman
Joined: 07 Nov 2007 Posts: 7
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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 2:10 am Post subject: Current Events |
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Just heard back: nothing new. SJ is still playing the puppet master and the sycophants are still kissing ass.
This is all second-hand info, but it sounds like a crappy place to work.
I found a cool place to work, and my boss is really encouraging about us giving input into the program. I'm really expanding my horizons! |
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losing_touch_two
Joined: 19 Feb 2009 Posts: 2
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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 2:14 am Post subject: Re: Current Events |
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Sallyman wrote: |
Just heard back: nothing new. SJ is still playing the puppet master and the sycophants are still kissing ass.
This is all second-hand info, but it sounds like a crappy place to work.
I found a cool place to work, and my boss is really encouraging about us giving input into the program. I'm really expanding my horizons! |
I guess I can be glad that I was not successful in my application attempt! |
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jakesog
Joined: 22 Jun 2009 Posts: 1
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:06 am Post subject: Re: Current Events |
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Sallyman wrote: |
Just heard back: nothing new. SJ is still playing the puppet master and the sycophants are still kissing ass.
This is all second-hand info, but it sounds like a crappy place to work.
I found a cool place to work, and my boss is really encouraging about us giving input into the program. I'm really expanding my horizons! |
Hi
Could you elaborate a bit more on your comments on the first sentence. I plan to apply for a job in xjtlu but wonder whether it is good. Thanks. |
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Hansen
Joined: 13 Oct 2008 Posts: 737 Location: central China
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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"Tabula Rasa wrote:
My advice: GET IT IN WRITING. Whatever you are promised, if it's not in the contract, you are NOT going to get it.
Solid advice for just about everything job-related in China."
I have not found the written or spoken word of some Chinese bosses to be of any value. A lie is a lie is a lie, written or spoken. |
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YankeeDoodleDandy
Joined: 17 Aug 2004 Posts: 428 Location: Xi'an , Shaanxi China
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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And , That's the truth !!! |
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naturegirl321
Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:16 am Post subject: |
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Any updated info?
thanks! |
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