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Tips for teaching Kuwaiti 12th grade boys poetry
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Starfell,

Try either West Side Story or Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead - or take a look here:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/othello/tg_adapting.html

http://www.fathom.com/course/28701907/session5.html

"The two best, and most diverse, movie adaptations of Shakespeare's plays for a modern audience are Ten Things I hate About You and Much Ado About Nothing. Each, in its own way, opens up the sheer joy and exuberance of much of Shakespeare that may be lost in getting young people to enjoy the greatest English playwright."

http://www.helium.com/items/1325174-shakespeare-movies-heath-ledger-denzel-washington

Regards,
John
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15yearsinQ8



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Location: kuwait

PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shake's plays - made me think of Renaissance Man with Danny Devito
another movie about teachering to thickskulls
has great quotes

Bill Rago: Hamlet's mother, she's a queen.
Soldiers: Hamlet's mother, she's a queen.
Bill Rago: Buys it in the final scene.
Soldiers: Buys it in the final scene.
Bill Rago: Drinks a glass of funky wine.
Soldiers: Drinks a glass of funky wine.
Bill Rago: Now she's Satan's valentine.
Soldiers: Now she's Satan's valentine.

[another recruit is trying to bang a rhythm on his desk]
Private Miranda Myers: Give him time, give him time. He's a white boy.

[Talking about Shakespeare to the class]
Bill Rago: He wrote plays. Plays...? You know, like TV without the box.
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passionateteacher



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 7:39 am    Post subject: COMICAL!! Reply with quote

I have asked for suggestions and this dicussion has become SO comical!

Thanks for the suggestions guys, but I cannot use music, I have used visuals, powerpoint presentations offering explanation in plain English. I just wanted to see if there were more hands on method approaches to teaching the material. It is ususually consisiting of poetry that they cannot relate to because it was written at least two centuries ago!

Girls are not a problem, they generally like to read and have more patience to sit through the lesson. It is the boys that I have concerns with.
Believe it or not they seem to get the lesson. It is just the process that is frustrating!

More later.
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15yearsinQ8



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the point everyone is trying to make is you can't just push the envelope - you have to break out of the box here
to 'chalk and talk' or powerpoint your way through this is just asking for their attention to switch off and start fighting you

the girls may seem patient - but believe me, they're bored to tears

you can reach the objectives through other methods
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Kipling



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 10:13 am    Post subject: Literature breeds distress............................... Reply with quote

Ian McKellan's Richard the Third is superb and Antony Hopkins' Titus Andronicus is gruesome but well acted.
If you have no choice but to teach Shakespeare in its' original form then it is very difficult.( even in the UK)
For poetry try Hillaire Belloc or John Betjeman as they are amusing and use rhymes or get them to translate their own national poems into English. My Turkish students used to love doing that but it's difficult and doesn't always come off.

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Starfell



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a fun one for poetry/song lyrics in any country:

1. Get the lyrics of a song and divide the class into groups.
2. Give each group a verse and get them to translate it into Arabic.
3. Take back the original English verses.
4. Redistribute the new Arabic translations among the groups.
5. Get them to translate it back into English
6. Then put the original English lyrics on the board (OHP) and compare the translations.

It's fun and you don't need to speak Arabic.
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Starfell



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We were doing some First world War poetry last week and I managed to get hold of a tape with the poetry being narrated- that was a bit different.Kind of a ltstening comprehension at first.
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