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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:24 am    Post subject: Re: 2011, Off to a GREAT start in Mexico! Reply with quote

Prof.Gringo wrote:
The latest from the war in Mexico:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110114/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_drug_war_mexico

"About 100 soldiers, marines and police located a drug gang safe house in the state capital of Xalapa and surrounded it late Thursday, said Veracruz state Public Safety Secretary Sergio Lopez Esquer.

The gunmen resisted fiercely and a standoff ensued, with authorities firing tear gas into the house and exchanging fire with those inside.

Other gunmen shot up homes and cars in surrounding neighborhoods, apparently to try to draw soldiers away from the safe house.
Security forces finally stormed the house early Friday and seized grenades, ammunition and vehicles, army Gen. Rene Aguilar Paez said. There were no arrests."

Nice to know that innocent people were having their homes and cars shot up to distract the Govt. Security Forces.

Also, being a town mayor is a deadly job as well: "Three mayors have been killed in Mexico so far this month, and more than a dozen were gunned down in 2010."

Notice that that 6 hour gunbattle took place in Xalapa, Veracruz. A long ways from the US border. So, violence can and does erupt anywhere in Mexico.


Yeah, keep an eye on the Xalapa news pages...tomorrow, the next day, and so forth. Like Tucson, very much in the media for a bit after a big event then gone a week later as news has other more interesting things to tell you about.

But if we write it in caps, then the WAR in XALAPA has CLAIMED MILLIONS of LIVES and it seems pretty interesting until...

...no one ever remembers the name Xalapa.

I bet we already forgot the name of that 9 year old in Tucson that was shot and killed. Shameful but true?
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Enigma2011



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good point Guy. Working on turning over a new leaf. Joined MEXTESOL, working on a MAED and reading EFL books from The Anglo.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prof. Gringo wrote:
Good point Guy. Working on turning over a new leaf. Joined MEXTESOL, working on a MAED and reading EFL books from The Anglo.


Good start! I wish you well for 2011.
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TeresaLopez



Joined: 18 Apr 2010
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Location: Mexico City

PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Enigma2011 wrote:

I have yet to hear from one in Mexico who can make it ON THEIR OWN without the help of a spouse, SS or a Pension from the States..

MOD EDIT I lived on my ESL wages alone for many years, and I know of at least 10 other people here in Mexico City who do the same.
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Dragonlady



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Prof.Gringo



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Location: Dang Cong San Viet Nam Quang Vinh Muon Nam!

PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:21 pm    Post subject: Re: 2011, Off to a GREAT start in Mexico! Reply with quote

Dragonlady wrote:
Prof.Gringo wrote:
... that 6 hour gunbattle took place in Xalapa, Veracruz. A long ways from the US border. So, violence can and does erupt anywhere in Mexico.
Geez no kidding, what the heck have myself and others who live outside of NeverNeverLand been saying all along.

Guy Courchesne wrote:
Yeah, keep an eye on the Xalapa news pages...tomorrow, the next day, and so forth. Like Tucson, very much in the media for a bit after a big event then gone a week later as news has other more interesting things to tell you about.
Not always, and certainly not when things happen in your own back yard. http://www.hispanicallyspeakingnews.com/notitas-de-noticias/details/mexican-police-commander-abducted-in-veracruz-mexico/4369/

wrote:
But if we write it in caps, then the WAR in XALAPA has CLAIMED MILLIONS of LIVES and it seems pretty interesting until...
This comment speaks volumes. Leave the 'we' out of it.

wrote:
...no one ever remembers the name Xalapa.
Why would I and the 7,638,378 registered citizens of Veracruz (as of Dec 1, 2010) forget the name of our state capital? Evil or Very Mad

wrote:
I bet we Question already forgot the name of that 9 year old in Tucson [USA] that was shot and killed. Shameful but true?
Christine. And yes, she is now a statistic, just like these kids in Mexico...

A Borderland Beat article posted in June of 2010 cited 913 children had been killed since December 2006 and thousands more have been injured, crippled, blinded, and/or mutilated. The number of dead children is now more than 1,200.

and the countless other children in the world who die needlessly each day.

Crap... I'm depressed now...

DL Sad


Thanks for the post DL.

Yes, it is depressing. But we can't bury our heads in the sand and pretend that none of this is happening. Over 15,000 dead in 2010 alone. This is not just something to be pushed onto the back burner.
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Prof.Gringo



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:39 pm    Post subject: 40,000 Dead in Mexico's Drug WAR! Reply with quote

With 2011 nearing its midway point, how many people have been killed in Mexico?

"Until May many major international news outlets covering Mexico used the general figure of 34,000 or 35,000 drug war deaths -- while bodies have kept piling up in shootouts or discovered in mass graves by the hundreds. In the border city of Ciudad Juarez alone, for example, at least 976 people have been violently killed in the metropolitan region since the beginning of 2011, reports the tally at Frontera List.

But several news outlets in Mexico, as well as the peace movement of poet Javier Sicilia, have begun citing a figure of 40,000 dead since last month. A U.S.-based law-enforcement group favoring more liberal drug policies assembled this online data map from news and Internet sources to arrive an estimate topping 40,000, an increase of about 6,000 since the last official figure. (The Times lately has cited an estimate of at least 38,000, based on the official figures plus an approximation for the first months of 2011 derived from mainstream Mexican media tallies.)"


"Many drug-related deaths are simply not counted, and scores of people remain missing or disappeared. As The Times has reported, the missing constitute a confounding mystery that casts doubt on virtually any figure of deaths related to the drug war."


"Overall, 111 U.S. citizens were killed in Mexico in 2010, by far the most violent year in the war, according to the last travel advisory issued by the U.S. State Department. The advisory does not specify which of those deaths may be tied to the drug war. In addition, numerous innocent bystanders and even infants have fallen victim to the violence."


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/laplaza/2011/06/mexico-war-dead-update-figures-40000.html
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