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spiral78
Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:51 pm Post subject: Bush Redux |
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I just gotta taste a Rick Perry's oral discourse skills.
Would be interesting to discuss on the level of speech patterns - and content!
Good heavens, Texas, how many a these all-hat-no-cows cowboys ya'll got out there, jus' droolin' ta lead the mos' unique, greates' country in th' history uh th world? |
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Spiral,
Way too many many.
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John |
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spiral78
Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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Dear John:
Sad thing is, people like my well-meaning parents will jump at the chance to vote for Rick Perry. After all, he's clearly a 'man a god,' (like Bush) having just held a religious rally last week. They won't understand the stimulus double-talk or the potential dangers regarding international affairs or any of the other implications of an actual presidential Bush redux.
So many seem to fall for the catch-phrase approach these days. Heavens, we teach ESL students things like 'critical thinking' and 'detecting opinion and bias' (well, in Canada we do - not sure about the US ESL scene). Those aren't meant to be geared towards influencing opinions, but giving English as a second language speakers the linguistic skills to detect bias and slant and etc.
Perhaps should be mandatory for US voters....
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spiral |
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nomad soul
Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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Spiral, some 'Mericans find that folksy accent and style of speaking appealing because it doesn't sound pretentious or uppity and thus, comes across as trustworthy and neighborly. Politics aside, the same has been said of Sarah Palin, but her use of sentence structure is uh... |
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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But it's all too often just a ploy:
"Common man
The "plain folks" or "common man" approach attempts to convince the audience that the propagandist's positions reflect the common sense of the people. It is designed to win the confidence of the audience by communicating in the common manner and style of the target audience. Propagandists use ordinary language and mannerisms (and clothe their message in face-to-face and audiovisual communications) in attempting to identify their point of view with that of the average person."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda
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spiral78
Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:31 am Post subject: |
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"Common man
The "plain folks" or "common man" approach attempts to convince the audience that the propagandist's positions reflect the common sense of the people. It is designed to win the confidence of the audience by communicating in the common manner and style of the target audience. Propagandists use ordinary language and mannerisms (and clothe their message in face-to-face and audiovisual communications) in attempting to identify their point of view with that of the average person." |
Exactly. This is one of the tactics we teach on 'detecting opinon and bias' courses, along with 'glittering generalisations' and the 'fear (also known as 'us vs. them')' tactics.
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some 'Mericans find that folksy accent and style of speaking appealing because it doesn't sound pretentious or uppity and thus, comes across as trustworthy and neighborly. |
I know you're right, but whatever happened to aspiring to be (and sound) well-educated? Maybe there is a link with the decline in educational standards and the wish to sound (and be around folks who sound) poorly-educated. |
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Captain_Fil
Joined: 06 Jan 2011 Posts: 604 Location: California - the land of fruits and nuts
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 4:54 am Post subject: |
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Bush Redux?
I thought this thread was about Obama and his neocon policies...
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Sashadroogie
Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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ancient_dweller
Joined: 12 Aug 2010 Posts: 415 Location: Woodland Bench
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:00 am Post subject: |
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"disrupting the rear of the invaders"
Thats funny. |
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